Stonestrreet trying to buy Rachel Alexandra - from DRF

alm · May 09, 2009, 05:59:20 AM

This is a great post that encapsulates several things I\'ve observed over time. I just hadn\'t put it together in this way.

A sealed wet track or sloppy track has moved up one of my fillies against males too (although she doesn\'t like grass.) If that is somehow comparable to running on the top of a grass surface it would explain something that otherwise made no sense to me.

Silver Charm · May 09, 2009, 07:12:37 AM

Barry you should be banned.

You come on here and say too many things that make sense.

So I guess what you are also saying is Rachel has a Nice Ass?

Silver Charm · May 09, 2009, 07:26:56 AM

I do agree the two week wheel back is quick off that last effort. I don\'t care if someone said (Jellish?) The rider was not even moving on her. It was still an effort.

And yes there is a bully element to piling with $10M, moving to a new trainer and saying we are going after the boys NOW.

But maybe now is the best time and Assmussen is smart enough to determine if she needs a little break afterwards assuming she looks just as impressive

Also the Derby winner just SI Cover Storied so there is a lot of attention horse racings way and if more people tune in and see a repeat of what we all saw on Oaks Day then there could be some kinda buzz created.

I said to good friend of mine after the race who is a very knowledgable horse fan, \"Remember this one. A 20 length win much less in a Grade One. You may never see it again\" .

I saw Meadowlake break his maiden by 23 but that was a maiden race. The Ky Oaks is no freakin maiden race

I think we now know why Zeyatta scratched out that day........

richiebee · May 10, 2009, 04:28:56 AM

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Also the Derby winner just SI Cover Storied so
> there is a lot of attention horse racings way and
> if more people tune in and see a repeat of what we
> all saw on Oaks Day then there could be some kinda
> buzz created.

Silver: The only \"buzz\" you are hearing is the sound of flies circling around
Racing, which as far as the mainstream is concerned, is a dead sport.

Go into a sports bar in a sports crazy town like NY or Boston. Most of the big
sports fans in said establishment will think that Rachel Alexander is a country
singer or an adult film star.

Congress got involved with Racing for a few hours. PETA got involved with Racing
for a few days (I was looking for PETA recently. Instead of throwing blood and
red paint on celebrity\'s furs, they should have been running a full court press
on NYRA, which featured a one per week fatality rate during the Inner Dirt
racing season and then had \"L\'Affaire Paragallo\").

The powers that be in Racing are now in an all out effort to maintain its loyal
fan base; recruiting new fans is probably not feasible at this point.

Only the Derby creates a buzz among the mainstream. A lot of the folks who
catch a little Derby fever are not even aware that the event is part of a three
race series. The only chance Racing has for a mainstream buzz is if MTB repeats
in Baltimore, the chance of which only seems likely if it starts raining in
Baltimore NOW and doesn\'t stop until next Saturday.

I believe that Racing is not destined to make a comeback with the \"Mainstream\"
unless all of a sudden the horse becomes a major part of day to day life in
America, the way it was in the first half of the 20th Century. Racing now can
only look with envy at NASCAR, which had 3+ hours of Network coverage in prime
time last night.

Silver Charm · May 10, 2009, 11:09:54 AM

Well Ritchie we do have a President who is big on Alternative Energy so maybe we will be back riding Horseback and using the Pony Express. Global Warming is killing people faster than the Swine Flu. At least that is what their science says and they used the same guys who said Synthetic were better. So it must be true.

NASCAR has its own issues now. Even some of their core base is getting a little weary of the commercialization. Was it 3 hours of coverage? They got my attention for about 3 seconds. If it aint Daytona, it aint racing. There are plenty of other sports with problems out there. The Phoenix hockey team went bankrupt. The Arena league cancelled their season. About 10 NBA Teams needed loans to help pay their bills. If a baseball player has hit 500 homers in the last 15 years then it is about 9 out of 10 he did it on drugs.

The country is going to have to start figuring out ways to pay the bills for everyones recent sins. Racing helps do that. And if Rachels wants to sponsor Rachel the sport should take\'em up on it.

They can call it a Sin Tax.........

P-Dub · May 10, 2009, 11:51:21 AM

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Well Ritchie we do have a President who is big on
> Alternative Energy so maybe we will be back riding
> Horseback and using the Pony Express. Global
> Warming is killing people faster than the Swine
> Flu. At least that is what their science says and
> they used the same guys who said Synthetic were
> better. So it must be true.

Silver,
Keep politics out of the conversations. You sound ridiculous and you\'ll do nothing more than start a pissing contest.

> NASCAR has its own issues now. Even some of their
> core base is getting a little weary of the
> commercialization. Was it 3 hours of coverage?
> They got my attention for about 3 seconds. If it
> aint Daytona, it aint racing. There are plenty of
> other sports with problems out there. The Phoenix
> hockey team went bankrupt. The Arena league
> cancelled their season. About 10 NBA Teams needed
> loans to help pay their bills. If a baseball
> player has hit 500 homers in the last 15 years
> then it is about 9 out of 10 he did it on drugs.

Doesn\'t matter if you tuned in for 3 seconds. Enough people do, thats why they get prime time coverage on a fairly regular basis. I don\'t watch it, but I know many that do.

Wasn\'t the movie \"Seabiscuit\" supposed to jump start racing again?? A movie nominated for Best Picture?? If that doesn\'t get the masses interested or create a buzz, what makes anybody think anything else will??

Silver Charm · May 10, 2009, 12:28:51 PM

P-Dub

You are a half empty guy and I\'m a half full guy. Lets leave it at that.

Racing is hanging in there when other sports with high fixed cost contracts and here today and gone tomorrow sponsors, licensing and TV revenue streams face some big problems.

Racing is face with supply issues with horses, several facilities on more than shaky financial footing and a dearth of new owners. But there are no $20M guaranteed contracts and the sport may be soon heading into an era where only the \"strongest of the strong survive.\"

Which is what a lot of people have said has needed to happen for a long time......

P-Dub · May 11, 2009, 02:06:29 AM

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> P-Dub
>
> You are a half empty guy and I\'m a half full guy.
> Lets leave it at that.

I\'m just more realistic than you are.

>
> Racing is hanging in there when other sports with
> high fixed cost contracts and here today and gone
> tomorrow sponsors, licensing and TV revenue
> streams face some big problems.

Yes they do. Every business in our country is struggling right now, its not just a sports thing. But it isn\'t hard to find them either. They\'re on television constantly and have great visibility. Can you say that about racing?? BTW, you say other sports have \"big problems\". Racing doesn\'t??

> Racing is face with supply issues with horses,
> several facilities on more than shaky financial
> footing and a dearth of new owners. But there are
> no $20M guaranteed contracts and the sport may be
> soon heading into an era where only the \"strongest
> of the strong survive.\"

I honestly don\'t understand your point here.

One of these days, we\'re going to agree on something.

Silver Charm · May 11, 2009, 04:21:58 AM

How about agree to disagree?

There are too many small tracks, racing dates and therefore dilution.

With Sat TV and the Internet Racing can work to overcome being out-of-site out of mind.

Notice I used site not sight. There is a difficulty in building NEW fans is there is no live racing in that town. So that is an obstacle.

But fewer meets and dates proves bigger isn\'t always better........