That time of year.

[Silver Charm]

I think when figure makers start adjusting their figures for pace they are playing God a little bit.

Or Karnac the Magnificent

Put a pace mark down and let the user decide for himself. Giving horses Tops after making a pace adjustment is way to judgemental.

[P-Dub]

TGJB Wrote:
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> But now we have moved into the twilight zone. From
> the \"SHEETS\" board, Friedman posting, today, in
> answer to a question about Pyro\'s \"top\" in the
> Risen Star (emphasis is mine):
>
> \"In his first race this year, though, the pace was
> unusually slow so we gave all the horses some
> extra credit AND SINCE PYRO CLOSED QUITE A BIT
> INTO THE LAST FRACTION, HE RECEIVED EVEN MORE
> CREDIT\".
>
> Holy s--t.
>
> What Len is saying is that they have thrown away
> the fixed relationships of horses within the race.
> In other words, Pyro won the race by 2 lengths,
> but they are giving him credit for winning by 4
> lengths (or whatever they chose to end up with).
>
> This statement is from the guy who once famously
> posted that Ragozin\'s figures were made by a
> method \"that produces accurate, objective
> numbers\".
>


JB,
He also says...
\"From my experience the P~ numbers (which are far more common in grass races) have held up very well and have proved very useful.\"

No empirical data to back that up, but Len said so.  It must be true.  Isn\'t that the way they think over there??  Armed with this information, feel free to use Pyro \"lightly in exotics\" for his next race.

If anyone needs a good laugh, read a few posts over there. Comical.