Hard Spun Works in a Blazing 57.60

Started by NoCarolinaTony, April 30, 2007, 05:30:36 PM

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reboundman

I looked back over it, and Proud Citizen\'s last work was actually 58.8.

Some other notables to put things into perspective:
Lawyer Ron - 58.8
Birdstone - 58.4
Domestic Dispute - 58.6
Congaree - 58.2
Point Given - 58.2

fkach

Thanks for the research. That mitigates some of my concern, but I still don\'t like the idea that he went out so fast.  22 44+ looks more like a prep for a sprint or a horse you are trying to shorten up in distance.  I wish I had some stats on things like this because in general I like improving speed in works among lightly raced horses. This is like some sort of outlier stat though because it\'s 10F, the horse is trying to stretch out, and the fractions were unusually fast.

davidrex

Flushed,

Hard to see anyone playing cat & mouse w/a gold mine like the derby.
Looks to me like Pino  blew the work(he doesn\'t work the horse unless Spun is stabled in Del/Md.)

This horse shows up for Derby, it won\'t be because of this work.

flushedstraight

davidrex Wrote:
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> Looks to me like Pino  blew the work


Then why did they work him with a Grade 1 sprinter? I\'ll take 15-1 that Jones is smartier than all his second guessers and I\'ll wait until this horse actually makes a mistake before dismissing him.

miff

Fkach,

I also like the sudden improved early gas theory with young horses.Hard Spun does not fit that profile if you simply look at his PP lines.He worked slow and looked tired in his previous work( 1.42 from memory for mile) and then blistered  57 and change five days out under urging late.

I kinda agree with Andy Beyer on this colts lack of a definite plan coming in. As far as Larry Jones goes,you never know,but remember \"the dumber the farmer, the bigger the potato\"


Mike
miff

ajkreider

Sure, must be why Jones said this:

"That wasn't what we were shooting for...We weren't trying to see who was the fastest, but I told (jockey) Mario (Pino) I just hope we can throttle him down on Derby day. It may have put a little more zip in him that what we needed.\"

Bally Ache

This horse has had two mile races on dirt.  By my figures he ran the same race both times.  He got the mile in both in  1:38 & 4.  More specifically, he came home in both races in 26 & 4.  That does not augur well for a horse who\'s going to be asked to go a mile & a quarter.

Also, he\'s never even been in the gate against a top horse, let alone beat one.  Curlin also has never beat a top horse but he looks like he could be any kind.  If Curlin doesn\'t beat Hard Spun on Sat., the moon\'s a balloon.