Second time lasix or first time appropriate lasix

Started by Thehoarsehorseplayer, December 16, 2006, 02:01:55 PM

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Thehoarsehorseplayer

 So Look Out Austin wins the 4th Race at Aqueduct today paying $80+.  Second time lasix.  

But what we don\'t know is if this horse was treated with a different CC of Lasix for today than for the last race.

Because, this information is collected by the track, CC levels could be posted on a web page accessible by the public.  Maybe knowing when the dosage is changed would make a difference, maybe not.  But the information would be out there for all to see.

The same with the CO levels in California.  Just post them on the web for the public  to audit.   Do the doable first and more things become doable. Don\'t do the doable and it\'s quite obvious you really don\'t want to do anything.

SJU5

Let me understand this:
You want lasix information posted?  How in the world can you possibly understand the trainer/vets intent on increasing or decreasing the dosage level of lasix prior to race.

If horse A was given 20 cc of lasix last out and he ran poorly, was that because it was not enough? or did the lasix dose make the horse drowsy as is a possible side effect in some horses? Now today he goes to 10 cc\'s. Is that because the trainer does not feel Horse A needs a full 20 cc\'s because the bleeding/breathing problem has stopped or the 20 made him drowsy.

And also 20 cc\'s of one brand might NOT have the same effect as 20 cc\'s of another brand or type of lasix.  Which is stronger? 600 mg of Ibuprofin or 500 mg of Naprosyn? Guessing huh? (It\'s Naprosyn). But also the effect differs in different people. Thats why there are many types of anti-inflammatory medications and strengths. Do SoCal horses who run in hotter weather need less lasix in order to retain electrolytes for optimum hydration levels? Do we use more in the North in winter as horses lose less fluids from sweat, but might have more nasal mucus because of the  increase in nasal discharge or more in the hot, humid Saratoga heat?

Do you expect NYRA to post cc\'s AND type of lasix or other meds. Forget a friend who is a handicapper, bring your local pharmacist to assist you handicapping the card based on medication.

Thehoarsehorseplayer

Actually, its much simpler than that.

Over times patterns will or will not appear.

If second time LSX users that have a differnt dosage than first out win with more regularity than second time LSX users without dosage changes than the handicapper with this knowledge has an edge.

And in this sense it\'s no different than announcing a blinker change.  I don\'t know what kind of blinkers they are putting on a horse or what type they are taking off.  Nor do I know exactly what type of blinker the horse might need, but I know when they are making a change it is a piece of information I should consider.

So in this sense I don\'t need a pharmacy degree.  Just the information.  Easily providable information that obviously is important enough that the track wants to know it.

Or don\'t you think they should tell you a horse is receiving LSX at all?  Does one have to be a pharmacist to utilize that information?  So, if they give you LSX information, why not give you more accurate information.

The larger point is that as the system is set up, trainers and vets can cheat legally, by listing a horse as running on LSX, but not using the amount that it has run well with before, then go back to that dose at a fatter price.

Always, what I want to be aware of at the track is change.

And all I\'m asking for is transparency.  Which seems like common sense to me.