TGJB: T mac-- it is something to think about. I had a hard time explaining to my British friend that Barbaro would have a better chance of pulling it off if he had won by a hard-fought half length in the Derby.

But SJ could have done it if he had one less prep race-- he strung together 4 huge ones, but only 2 came in the TC. Best 3yo of all time.

But note how strong a 2yo top he had-- it meant even that ridiculous 3yo top represented only 4 points of development.

tmcdevitt: Right. So in all likelihood a horse would have to get down to a 1 or better as a 2YO