Andy Beyer on Derby TG ground

Started by miff, May 16, 2006, 09:33:43 AM

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ezgoer89

NoCarolinaTony Wrote:
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> Think I rather have the horse who may not be
> \"fully extended\" yet than one who has. And if
> Barbaro was fully extended that what can you say
> then about BD?

Well, at least this will be settled on the track... I\'m not sure how an historic figure of -2 1/2 in the Derby with a four point new top and seven points of development from his 2 yo top is not fully stressed out.

There is such a minute chance that Barbaro is going to pair up that the wager becomes a win bet figuring how far he is going to regress.  Will a regression to 0 win... how about a regression back to his secondary top of 1\"...

ezgoer89

Hard to take anyone serious who would skip watching racing on Preakness Day to watch cars make left hand turns  ;-)

Are you rooting for STP, Viagara, or Home Depot?  :-)

NoCarolinaTony Wrote:
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> I am not betting the Race!!!
>
> I don\'t see the value. I think BD is ready to
> bounce. I believe running wide and low takes more
> out of a horse especially in a race like the
> Derby
>
> I live in Charlotte NC and will watch the Race at
> Lowes Motor Speedway Nextel Allstar Race. When in
> Rome..you know. I will root for Barbaro to win.
>
> Yes I am committing heresey in saying this but
> running wide and low is not as good as running
> inside and lower. The factoring in of wide etc
> brings things on par with each other.
>
> And one last thing it is my belief that the
> purposly spaced out campaign saves energy to  be
> used later in the triple crown campaign working in
> Barbaro\'s favor  vs what you want to believe as
> the horse can\'t take it philosophy.
>
> So Barbaro is going for his third race in form
> cycle in 49 days vs BD going for his fourth race
> in form cycle in 77, What is all the fuss about?
>
> NC Tony
>
>



NoCarolinaTony

ezgoer89 Wrote:
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> Hard to take anyone serious who would skip
> watching racing on Preakness Day to watch cars
> make left hand turns  ;-)
>
> Are you rooting for STP, Viagara, or Home Depot?
> :-)
>

No More STP (now Cheerio\'s) or VIAGRA  (now AAA) CARS anymore. I have customers who like to go so.......Business is Business as they say. But there will be at least another 200,000 people there too. They say that during race day the Speedway becomes the third largest city population in the state.

Maybe I\'ll be saving money. ;-)

NC Tony

PS I\'m rooting for Brown!!! What can Brown do for you???




> NoCarolinaTony Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am not betting the Race!!!
> >
> > I don\'t see the value. I think BD is ready
> to
> > bounce. I believe running wide and low takes
> more
> > out of a horse especially in a race like the
> > Derby
> >
> > I live in Charlotte NC and will watch the
> Race at
> > Lowes Motor Speedway Nextel Allstar Race.
> When in
> > Rome..you know. I will root for Barbaro to
> win.
> >
> > Yes I am committing heresey in saying this
> but
> > running wide and low is not as good as
> running
> > inside and lower. The factoring in of wide
> etc
> > brings things on par with each other.
> >
> > And one last thing it is my belief that the
> > purposly spaced out campaign saves energy to
> be
> > used later in the triple crown campaign
> working in
> > Barbaro\'s favor  vs what you want to believe
> as
> > the horse can\'t take it philosophy.
> >
> > So Barbaro is going for his third race in
> form
> > cycle in 49 days vs BD going for his fourth
> race
> > in form cycle in 77, What is all the fuss
> about?
> >
> > NC Tony
> >
> >
>
>
>



NoCarolinaTony

I agree- it will all be settled on the track, and  will be a great race either way. Your points are valid.

So let me hypothosize then, If both Barb and BD regress, I think SNS was backing up badly in last so I don\'t think he\'s a player this time either? Who then?

Bernadini a horse with 3 lifetime starts and never gone 2 turns yet?

Diabolical/Hemmingway\'s Key/ Greeley\'s Legaxy and Plantinum Couple are all too slow and hoping to cach a check as far as I can tell. Can a case be made for any of these?

NC Tony

richiebee

\"But there will be at least 200,000 other people (at the NASCAR race)...\"

 125,000 of them are related to each other, right?

marcus

I\'d hate to be around when they all say Good Night - Waltons Style ...

Has The Derby has become like Nascar with overcrowded tracks that were not designed for the
speed and volume of today\'s contestants ?

* Nice  Thoro-Graph Preakness analysis , I like the strategy in Jerry\'s race overview  . Honestly , I had a difficult excersise evaluating BD\'s pattern and whether he was showing signs of a deteriorating pattern headed for a K or if there was something left in the tank .  SNS\'s upside for that last one is that he should be well rested for Saturday ...
marcus

NoCarolinaTony

None are related to me and very few Italians thats for sure!!!

NC Tony

marcus

You\'ll find most northerners appreciate the delicate nature of the situation and perdicament of the southern states ...    

In addition to Jerry\'s play in his race analysis overview for the Preakness , I\'m playing a key w/ Brother Derek over Like Now + Greeley\'s Legacy .

The South\'s gonna\' Rise again - South Brooklyn that is ...
marcus