Early Derby Comments - No Wise Guys Named....

[TGJB]

For what it\'s worth, my guess is BD 7/2, LR 6-1, SNS, SM, and Barbaro all 7 or 8 to 1. SNS is 7.6-1 at the biggest offshore joint last I looked.

SM has a 116 Beyer sitting there, Baffert, and a recent Bluegrass blowout that they\'ll show the stretch run of 100 times before raceday. LR has lousy Beyers and Rags.

[congaree1]

Lawyer Ron only has one strong race on Rags otherwise he looks very slow, same withe Beyer. So if Lawyer Ron wins the Derby, that would make your figs right on, Jerry ?

[miff]

I think it\'s a little premature to talk odds. In this 20 horse field, the pp draw will be big.Lets say BD draws post 20. I\'d book every quarter on him at 7/2 but I doubt he would go off there.Depending on the draw there could be a 9/2-ish favorite this year.

[kev]

I know the post really doesn\'t matter alot for the Derby being the long run into the first turn, but I think if speed is on the outside that\'s really bad for them. Looks like you might have about 7 or 8 horses going up to the front.

[JJP]

I\'ll take my shot:

Brother Derek 4-1
Sweetnorthernsaint 6-1
Barbaro  6-1
Lawyer Ron 6-1
Point Determined 8-1
AP Warrior 10-1
Sinister Minister 12-1
Bob & John 15-1
Steppenwolfer 20-1
Cause to Believe 25-1
Jazil  25-1
Sharp Humor 25-1
everybody else 10-1 combined