Thanks JB. I guess your numbers have some merit.

[MJ02X]

I have always been a Ragozin Sheets devotee, using them since the late 80\'s I started out with TG when they came to California. I remember the cool office TG had on Green street in Pasadena. I was told by a former employee, John, that Jerry was juicing his numbers to make them look faster. He said they were innacurate and would not give any true measurement of a horses ability. I believed him. He was my mentor, and ever since I used the Ragozin sheets. He is dead now and though I still practice his teachings, I wanted to give the TG sheets a try, especially since they come in a \"simulcast package\". Well just to give the devil his due they do seem to have merit. I used them this past Sunday and I had 8 winners at different tracks with several paying in double digit figures, most notably an 80 dollar winner at LD. I guess I will use your data along with the Rags. Thanks for the early christmas money.

[NoCarolinaTony]

TGJB,

Jerry I have not seen a Simulcast Package yet since I do most of my buying online. Can it be sold online as well especially for us who go to simulcast outlets like in VA or KY where they are not sold? Would be more convenient to buy/downlad this way. What does the simulcast package exctually consist of? I am assuming its multiple tracks packaged to gether somehow.

MJ02X Always good to have extra Cashola before the Holidays...

NC Tony

[TGJB]

MJO-- Julian says hello. You were not the only one that was told really nasty stuff about TG (and me personally) by those guys (plural), and I have used this site to combat that nonsense. It was a real war zone here the first couple of years, but now you don\'t hear as much garbage (we don\'t use live ground, we\'re going out of business, we change numbers for our own benefit, all the other Wydocka/Nebel/Howard Dennis crap). Players taking a good look at our data is all we ask-- conratulations on the good day.

NoCar-- the simulcast book is a hardcopy only product, containing Thoro-Quick for several simulcast tracks. We did it mainly to reduce copying and shipping costs (we previously had to send full sets of all the tracks taken at every simulcast location). It has had the pleasant side effect of getting some Ragozin guys who otherwise would not look to do so (see above).