MOTT'S APPLE JUICE

[davidrex]

Barry Irwin Wrote:
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> I would not discount what you wrote and I have
> echoed similar sentiments, however to attribute it
> all to Dr. Steve Allday would be a mistake. That
> was my point.


Ok,I get it now ;Frankel is the best trainer using illegal substances in the western hemisphere!

Irwin,why don\'t you just mosy down to the White House and get a job as a fake in the press corps...if your really good..you might even get nominated to the Supreme Court...never trust a man w/2 first names.

[richiebee]

Sorry, but if Allday was retained by historically low percentage trainers at NYRA, like John Candlin or Pat Kelly or Gary Sciacca-- all who have somehow survived on the NYRA circuit while losing races at a 95% clip over the last 5 years-- they would not suddenly become winners.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Pletcher, Frankel and Dutrow procure high class stock on behalf of owners who are willing to spend money to compete at the highest levels; these trainers in turn spend the additional money necessary to procure top notch help-- especially exercise riders and assistant trainers.

Dutrow, as I have mentioned before, has blacksmith Alex Leaf working for him almost exclusively (Leaf also works for Tony Dutrow and Thomas Bush). This is undoubtedly an expensive arrangement, but a tremendous advantage. No hoof, no horse.

I\'d like to congratulate the Kouray family, whose Phillip X won race 6 at Aqueduct today. PX was produced by the Kouray\'s mare Aristie, who has also produced Stellianos, Levendis, Thanasi and Christian X. If I\'m not mistaken all of these siblings have won races at NYRA tracks this year. Quite a feat, and it deserves mention.

[Easy Goer]

Maybe this is when JB started using the projection method?

[davidrex]

  Richiebee,

You make some very fine points;but unless that smitty is dipping the nails into a majic elixir,wouldn\'t your synopsis be comparable to someone getting a $50 haircut every week and than going to pay a visit to his internist?

Five years ago the idea of illicit drugs was a conspiracy...today it is all but out in the open.



Just like T.G. who is leaning to raise the bar, can\'t we at least come to some agreement that when Jerry cocedes that some trainers just don\'t bonce off of continued fine efforts, that we accept this trend w/out needing to know the particulars?

As much as we would love to find out and trace it all the way back!!!!!!!

[johndrj]

You sir, are either clueless or a bird of a feather.  Frankel may be a great horsemen but he most certainly is getting \"a little help from his friends\".

[cubfan0316]

explain to me , if it isnt about drugs, how these trainers can possibly be that much better than others? how, after 20 years, can you think there is so many differant ways to train a horse? you feed him,work him out and run him.  no such thing, other than drugs, can move a horse up 5 lengths in a week.
ITS ALL ABOUT DRUGS......

[Boscar Obarra]

 On Wall Street, they are made to pay reparations when they are caught cheating. Some 1 billion is due to be paid out in an ipo scandal.

  How much would the  potion users owe under that scenario?