jimbo66: Big Apple Daddy has been a fast horse, for quite a while, running a bunch of numbers in the 1 to 3 range.  
 
Either that horse bounced really badly, Vicarage ran a big new top, or this is some evidence that the True North was a faster race than originally thought.

Maybe JB can comment early next week when he does the Belmont numbers for today, as it would be good to keep an eye on some of the others coming out of that race in the next few weeks, for betting opportunities.  (I know in a previous post that Jerry mentioned he would look at the again several months from now when enough evidence is there, which helps the database stay accurate, but the betting opportunities are gone by then.

Michael D.: the true north # looks a bit slow, although it\'s certainly not a definte yet. i do think, however, that the fortitude TG shows in reviewing these things is a positive. can only make the product better.

TGJB: Jimbo-- I won\'t be waiting a couple of months, just a couple of weeks.

Vicarage isn\'t a great horse to do this with, because he has 2\'s before. Even if he ran another one, it wouldn\'t mean that much. WUD running the big # subsequently does mean something.

marcus: Thank You - I had asked a couple of these \" pace folk\'s \" for a morning line for a stakes race run in NY recently and got some smooth talk but no ML . One of the most intresting features to ponder in the now defunct Colts Neck pace data was their ML .