Jerry, Jerry, Jerry

Started by dpatent, May 23, 2002, 08:48:08 PM

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TGJB

Jim, all wisecracks aside--Friedman deletes 50 to 100 times as many messages as I do, and not just attacks like yours (posts like David Patent\'s would not be allowed to stand, despite raising important questions). Since you don\'t blast them for it, how do expect me or anyone else to take this post seriously? I\'m being nice about this.

TGJB

Mall

A few weeks ago I noted 8 instances during the Kee meet where there was a major difference between TG & Rags. Since then we have WE, Beat Hollow on Derby Day, & the Preakness card. In almost each of these  instances, it wasn\'t a matter of there being 3 or 4 contenders who had smooth lines, as some who very rarely if ever see both products at the same time are arguing, but rather a stick out which appeared much faster using TG. The problem of course is that these instances are anecdotal evidence, as is the much anticipated HP v. DP tilt, which is taking place the same weekend as Tyson/Lewis.

The solution of course is to announce & do a one mo. prerace comparison at a particular track. When this kind of suggestion was made in the past, my best recollection is that the response was along the lines that TG didn\'t want to help promote Rags. If that was ever true, it isn\'t now & might instead be a knockout blow for Rags users who have an open mind. Then you\'d have more than a growing but still limited no. of examples, coupled with something those considering the issues should already know, namely that one figure maker is passionate about the accuracy & integrity of what he does, & is willing to explain it, while the other refuses to acknowledge legitimate questions from his own customers. If the results turn out the way I think they will, you might even allow people to use a variation of your slogan, to wit, \"Rags. Everything you need to lose.\"

TGJB

I like the slogan, but my lawyer has a problem with it. I was the one who challenged them to a contest (I think 4 times), and the DRF was willing to host it on their site. Sportstat was doing a 6 month study at (I think) 13 tracks, but after gathering all the data from us, Rag, and about 5 others, decided they (Jim Bayle) was too busy betting, and didn\'t have the time.

TGJB

Alydar in California

I was going to let this go, but, Nunzio notwithstanding, going against one\'s personality is often unhealthful.

JB writes: \"Aaron Sorkin ain\'t Shakespeare or Stoppard, but--you can\'t HANDLE the truth.\"

How did Demi Moore put it? I object. No, I strenuously object. \"A Few Good Men\" is entertaining, but it telegraphs all its punches and it\'s wildly implausible. Cruise is a lazy, softball-playing deal-making lawyer who turns out to be a better trial lawyer than his legendary father, who was Attorney General of the United States. Okay, Sorkin. And why the hell didn\'t Meathead (his CA cigarette tax pisses me off to no end) squeeze a nude scene out of Demi Moore? To see her looking her all-time best, rent \"About Last Night, which was based on a play by David Mamet, who is ten times the writer Sorkin is.

Sorkin also wrote the screenplay for \"The American President,\" which Reiner also directed. This movie was a harbinger to \"The West Wing.\" It\'s a saccharine, wimpy, two-inches-left-of-center paean to Clintonism and its gory offspring. It signalled the death of dialectic, the death of politics, the death of all that was good. Sorkin sucks. But you\'re right about \"Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead\" and Stoppard in general.

Friendly

Jerry,

I know you don\'t delete nearly the amount of posts that Friedman does. My point is that censorship is censorship - if you delete 20 of my posts then you are still a censor.

Why don\'t I criticize them for it? The answer to you and HP is they don\'t want to get into any of the confrontational discussions that you and HP would like and I don\'t care. The only reason I point it out on this board is because of your blatant hipocrisy.

From your point of view, you see it as being afraid to tackle important differences between the two products. From their point of view, they don\'t see any good reason to get into it. They are number one by far, so why give any attention/credence to you or your product?

TGJB

Certainly agree about \"American President\". Mostly agree about \"A Few Good Men\". Not a big fan of Mamet.

TGJB