It's a Raid!!!

[TGJB]

If something is going on (a big if), I think it\'s much more likely that some trainer has got himself in a situation where his horses are getting something like a 5 pound weight pull on a regular basis. In the long run that would give him a big edge.

[Thehoarsehorseplayer]

TGJB
I think there is a big IF to this scandal also.

By getting a five pound pull, do you mean you think some trainer is getting five pounds left out of the saddle bag on a regular basis?

If that\'s the case I might start rethinking my position on the death penalty. Right now I only believe in it for littering and double parking in front of open spaces.



Post Edited (12-18-04 09:03)

[TGJB]

Yeah, that\'s what I mean, something like that. It couldn\'t be too widespread, I would think, because it would get out.

On the other hand, apparently it DID get out. Maybe.

Thing is, I don\'t know what good checking the records would do. You would have to think whoever did it would not be stupid enough to keep records.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I agree records should be hard to find if this is a \"weight off\" issue...lol

I can\'t find anymore on it and the reports I found last night indicated it was about the public not being informed of overweights, so for the time being I\'ll assume thats what it is. Trainers like five pounds off. So I\'m inclined to think its a jockey or two going to the clerk of the scales and saying \"Hey, put me down for 112 pounds and when I win at that weight you got 25% of my purse portion.\"

I can\'t see a trainer going for a clerk of scales deal for five pounds all the time. I believe that weight matters and I could see a long term benefit, but, theres too much of a trail too. The Clerk, whoever puts the lead bars in the saddle. (Is it the clerk. I really don\'t know...lol) All the jockeys, (They hold their saddle and weigh in post race.) To me theres not enough deniability.

Its not like with testing postives, though I know theres a certain amount of \"strict liability\":

\"My horse? It wasn\'t me!!! No one saw!!!! I wasn\'t there!!! You sure you got that reading right? ReTest! Maybe we administered a little too much. That Vet Sucks. Couldnt be. Someone got to my horse!!!\"

CtC

[asfufh]

Possibly bettors can sueif fraud proven!!! http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/36606.htm