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[Michael D.]

TGJB,
i was comparing sunday silence\'s form at the time he ran the derby, to storm flag flying\'s form at the time she ran at the spa this summer, i made that very clear (you chose to ignore that in your reply). people who posted saw SS run, are well aware that we are talking about his three yr old form, and they know when the derby is run. it\'s just a matter of opinion, and a few of us would bet everything  we own that sunday silence, on the day of his derby run, would not get beat by SSF (in her \'04 spa form) by eight lengths running 10f....... and for picking just one race, well, i did pick SS\'s kentucky derby, and SSF\'s only 10f race. i didn\'t cherry pick there, i chose the obvious big races. sorry they didn\'t work in your favor, but that was just by chance.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

That Derby was not stellar. If Sunday runs on that track and SSF runs on a section of the Spa in the two path at Churchill, I think she would probably win. If she had to run over that mire, she probably wouldn\'t throw a 2. Her Dam hated Churchill as much as her Grand Dad.

CtC

[Michael D.]

ok fair enough ctc, always respect your opinion. she\'s gotta win by eight lengths though (in TG points)....... and i would like to mirror a message you sent to TGJB about a week ago: it is very telling that he allows these discussions about his figs to be debated on his board, even when some disagree with him; gives me more confidence in his product as a whole.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

jimbo66 wrote:

> CtC,
>
> This year\'s Cardinals baseball team would have crushed the 1989
> A\'s team.  However, this year\'s Redsox team would have not shot
> against the 89 A\'s.
>
> The Panthers of 2003 would have crushed the Steel Curtain
> Steelers of the 70\'s.  But the Pats of 2003 had not shot.
>
> And, Goer could compete today, but Sunday Silence would be
> devoured.

You know Jimbo, you\'re not far from the underlying point I was making. But I\'m pretty sure you don\'t understand it.

CtC

[jimbo66]

CtC,

I am not taking the bait.  Done that too many times on this board already, when somebody on the other side of an argument retorts with \"you\'re not smart enough to see my side\".

Whatever.  I am too stupid to realize you are right.  Lionheart was a distance horse, Sunday Silence was not.  Easy Goer was far superior to Sunday Silence, he just couldn\'t beat him.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

No I wasn\'t taking anyone up on their insight. But, I do believe horseraces are won by the fastest horse less than half the time. Matchups determine winners as much as what they\'ve accomplished in the past. Theres strengths and vunerabilities in every equation. SS was a beneficiary of that in the B.C. Classic. (Not at renumerative odds) What I\'m saying is that I believe what TGraph believes, that tracks are generally slower and thoroughbreds faster. I also think todays horses are primarily brilliant types and Sunday Silence would have a lot more trouble staying close to todays burners: Megadeath, GZ, Saint Elmo\'s Fire, for example. I think Easy Goer on the other hand, though perhaps further back than before, would get his accustomed run on the right surface and distance. Unfortunately, he\'d never get to take em on at 12 plus marks.

CtC

Easy Goer lost 3 out of 4. The only win came with a home court advantage at \"12 furlongs\" on a deep tiring track that was playing to outside closers...not that the Phipps connection had anything to do with ensuring  that Easy Goer had perfect conditions for his style. LOL

You Easy Goer fans need to get over the fact that he was an excellent horse but not the second coming. SS was the more versatile and thus better horse. He proved it on the track.

[jimbo66]

Amen.  Class Handicapper.