Historical PPs -- Boy is the game different than it used to be.....

[TGJB]

Bourbon?? Not hardly.

Richie’s mention of Bid almost got me into talking about vodka martinis with Tommy Meyerhoff in Saratoga.

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JohnTChance Wrote:
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> No doubt: These slices of paper with Jerry\'s
> penmanship should be in the Smithsonian
> Institution.

Wow JTC that was my first introduction to TG.

I would always find the guy (Alan) who sold them in the GGF box seats, he was nice enough to share them with me.  My bankroll wasn\'t big back then, but I would buy them on a really big race card. He was friends with Jamie Ough and they would teach me how to read them. This was very early 90\'s. When I saw the results from these hand written little sheets of paper, I was instantly intrigued.

I bowled for years and we always went to Reno for a weekend trip in May. Sex, drugs and R&B (I was one of the few white dudes in the league).

I called Alan and asked for his best play. He tells me bet Turkish Lord ( I think that was the name).  I looked at my DRF. I said really?? He said just bet him. Ok, if you say so.

So Sunday morning my buddies and I stagger into the race book at the Nugget in Sparks.

Turkish Lord is 9/1.  I put $200 on him, which was by far the biggest wager of my life to that point (I did put $100 on Sunday Silence in the 87 Preakness). I convince my buddies to just bet the damn horse. They do.

People overhear us talking about the race.  Every last person thinks we\'re nuts. This horse has run off the board recently, many lengths back. We get unsolicited handicapping lessons. You add this number, divide by the earnings, bonus points for these workouts. Yeah sure thx bud.

The horse draws off and pays $20.

They think I\'m a genius.

I thought I was going to be rich using this stuff.

That didn\'t happen, but its made me a buck or two over the years.

Been a TG guy ever since.

[BB]

Funny how indelible those memories are, huh?

May 15, 1993. 6th at GG. Turkish Lord is the 5th choice in a 6-horse field, draws off to win by 3, pays $19.80.

And we all know you meant the \'89 Preakness.

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BB Wrote:
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> Funny how indelible those memories are, huh?
>
> May 15, 1993. 6th at GG. Turkish Lord is the 5th
> choice in a 6-horse field, draws off to win by 3,
> pays $19.80.
>
> And we all know you meant the \'89 Preakness.

Duh, yes the \'89 Preakness. That trip was always Preakness weekend.

That was all off memory, Thx for the fact check!!! ......and yes BB after all these years I can still remember that day clearly.

[BB]

Didn\'t mean it as fact-check, just curious and love these stories.

The one that sticks with me was a September (1991) 2YO, second-time starter for Woody Stephens named Onlooker. Not a sheets play, but won a maiden special by 10 and paid $39.80. Still remember that sweet feeling of being the only one in my section of the Belmont grandstand cheering him on. I was hooked.

[Strike]

Judge Angelucci (Whittingham) is the horse who hooked me as a bettor and future owner at Hollywood Park in 1988. For those with time on their hands (everyone), google the 1988 Big Cap one that he did not win. I claimed my first horse in 1990 also at Hollywood Park, Latin American, who eventually won the Grade 1 (at the time) Californian. Does anyone know about Judge? I looked him up on horseracingnation and they have pedigree info on him that says he is 37. That doesn\'t seem possible.

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Strike Wrote:
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> Judge Angelucci (Whittingham) is the horse who
> hooked me as a bettor and future owner at
> Hollywood Park in 1988. For those with time on
> their hands (everyone), google the 1988 Big Cap
> one that he did not win. I claimed my first horse
> in 1990 also at Hollywood Park, Latin American,
> who eventually won the Grade 1 (at the time)
> Californian. Does anyone know about Judge? I
> looked him up on horseracingnation and they have
> pedigree info on him that says he is 37. That
> doesn\'t seem possible.

He ran in the 87 Classic, the one with Alysheba and Ferdinand. That was 33 years ago

BB I didn’t mean you were checking on the validity.

[BB]

Hey, Strike. There\'s only so much time you can spend reading, writing, doing crossword puzzles, and I\'ve had enough with looking at the news for a while, so I did a little leg work on the Judge.

You probably know that he was sold to Japanese interests for stud duty. He didn\'t do all that much over there (some decent broodmares and he did sire a champion steeplechaser), but there\'s not much else to be found on the internet. I reached out to a person I\'m familiar with on Twitter who works in Japanese racing and was able to get the following: He was pensioned from stud duty in 1998 and was sent to an \"Old Friends-style\" life at Shadai Farm. Unfortunately, not long after arriving there he had a paddock accident and did not survive. Sorry it\'s not a better story, but figured you would want to know.

And Paul, I figured as much, but wanted to be sure. Take care, all.

[Strike]

BB Wrote:
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> Hey, Strike. There\'s only so much time you can
> spend reading, writing, doing crossword puzzles,
> and I\'ve had enough with looking at the news for a
> while, so I did a little leg work on the Judge.
>
> You probably know that he was sold to Japanese
> interests for stud duty. He didn\'t do all that
> much over there (some decent broodmares and he did
> sire a champion steeplechaser), but there\'s not
> much else to be found on the internet. I reached
> out to a person I\'m familiar with on Twitter who
> works in Japanese racing and was able to get the
> following: He was pensioned from stud duty in 1998
> and was sent to an \"Old Friends-style\" life at
> Shadai Farm. Unfortunately, not long after
> arriving there he had a paddock accident and did
> not survive. Sorry it\'s not a better story, but
> figured you would want to know.
>
> And Paul, I figured as much, but wanted to be
> sure. Take care, all.

Well, certainly not good news but I didn\'t think he was still alive at the age of 37. I appreciate your research. I think we all have a horse who just grabbed us by the throat and into the game. He took me beyond just wanting to be a bettor. I can\'t really explain why. He wasn\'t the best at the time running against Alysheba, Ferdinand and others. But, he was damn good.