jimbo66: -160 is 3/5

$3.25 for a $2 bet.

A \"brilliant\" bet 6 weeks out.....

Maybe a way for those that bet songbird at 4/5 in the futures to win the oaks to recoup that money....

Jim

NormandyInvasion: In fairness to Kiaran, it is a testament to his willpower that he is able to train.  He has a hardship that must make his job considerably tougher than it is to those who enjoy good health.

TGJB: Strongly agree. I ran into him at a breakfast joint Labor day weekend, and he had trouble just moving around the room. Very tough.

Caradoc: After Lady Shipman\'s no-account performance yesterday down the hill, Kiaran is now 0-for-22 in the last 5 years shipping into Santa Anita. With that record in mind, a distance challenged horse, and one who may well be over the top, I\'d need more than 8-1 to be interested.