Mohaymen work

Started by ajkreider, April 20, 2016, 06:47:53 PM

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What about Dennis of Cork, came in with a pair and jumped 4 points as a deep closer.

Michael D.

ajkreider Wrote:
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> I\'m high on the Arky runners too, but there is
> something worrying.
>
> A quick scan through the archives says that since
> 2000, only two horses that had their last prep at
> Oaklawn moved forward figure-wise in the Derby:
> Nehro and Eight Belles.  And the latter was in the
> filly race.  We\'re talking more than 50 horses
> here.  (It was a quick look, so I may have missed
> some.)
>
> Several ran good figures, and several paired.  But
> it looks like this year\'s group needs to jump up a
> bit.  That\'s not encouraging.  Been struggling
> around for explanations.  One might be that I
> think the Oaklawn prep is the only one with
> weights in the teens.  So, moving from 118 to 126
> maybe takes a toll.  Doesn\'t bode well for
> Whitmore and Creator - though Nehro improved off a
> 6 pound gain.


Summer Bird prepped at OP and was clearly the best 3 yr old. Got buried in mud on Derby day though.

ajkreider

I think his sheet has his last prep at Hawthorne - which was a regression off his Oaklawn race.

Gerard

AP moved forward last year. Weight could be one thing, it also seems the horses that go southwest/rebel/ark derby are the ones that struggle. Even Smarty could only manage a pair.

TGJB

There is some chance odds dropping on M and others reflects negative opinions on someone else. I just put in a couple of futures based on that thinking, cause if so odds will change a lot.
TGJB

TGJB

Oddschecker, which covers all the British BM\'s, has Mohaymen at 10-1.
TGJB

JohnTChance

I assume MOYAMMEN's been injected in the void since his Florida Derby. But as to how that effects him going forward is your move. If you look at the sheet for FROSTED, McLaughlin\'s contender in last year's Derby, you'll notice a preposterous forward move to a negative number late in his two year old year... then a fade away from that performance in his next two starts at GP... followed by a layoff (of course, enough to appease withdrawal issues) resulting in another preposterous zap forward to a -2 top to win last year\'s Wood Memorial.

I understand McLaughlin was/still is? a good gambler. Wonder if preferred jockey kickbacks [still] figure in his equation.

Tavasco

Thanks Richie.

Oh, and not twenty questions but - anyone is the scheduled Cupid operation similar, identical to what Frostad went through last year.