I apologize to you and your customers. I should not engage someone so desperately insecure. You will not hear from me again.

You sound like bigly Trump. You have called them names. I haven\'t once seen or heard \'proof\' on anything. You can\'t pick out of context one figure from them or even you and say its right just because you say so. You think stakes horses can\'t run poorly? There is no evidence or critical thinking if its just something you believe. It is impossible to prove. Horses are pack animals and if leaders in a race are slow they may all be happy to just follow the leader of the pack.

You give a horse a big top and then it bounces when they pair it up. If the horse moves forward in next start it can be explained off both patterns.

You haven\'t put them out of business yet so why now? From what I hear they have most of the trainers on retainers bigly.

Thanks again for the useful response if you want to call double talk useful.

Time to move on to tomorrows handicapping.

I was being serious but from your response I get there\'s no point in having a discussion. I see  no reason why horses beaten 10-15 lengths can\'t run terrible figures. You think the opposite.

Thank you for the explanation. Can you explain why you think that it\'s right? You talk about the winner running poorly the next time and Squints looked just as good if that race was 5 or more points slower.

Do yo uever look at other figures like Beyer to see if there is agreement on certain races?

i went by your analysis and hit the squints race small.  When I went back to look at the figures for the race I cant beliee that Delaware race is right. Every figure maker I could see had that race about the same as his others.  Did the winner of that race really run what has to be one of the fastest races this year and not make it to the DRF Beyer leaderboard?

With all the stats currently on the sheets have you considered adding the lifetime record of the horse and the current owner?
Thanks, JD

is mountaineer a hard or soft track?