Nice to see trainers are the one prescribing meds.

The early fractions (1/4, 1/2) are way too slow.  Check other 6.5f races run at Saratoga the last few years.  You had two quality horses fighting for the lead and quitting badly.  You really think they set a slow pace?

Are they also disappointed in you acting like a winy little jerk?

The guys here are looking at this from a betting standpoint, you are not.  I would think you understand the difference.

jma11473 Wrote:
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> I\'m not saying Asmussen should be the role model
> for clean trainers, but it\'s a little premature to
> say \"Wow, he did well for two days, what a black
> mark on the sport.\" If it\'s going to bother you
> that much anytime the guy wins some races, I would
> think you\'d have stopped wagering long ago, since
> he\'s constantly winning races everywhere.

Like many others, you confuse caring about the sport with the ability to profit from it at the windows.

I had missed the last thread about him.  I caught up.  It doesn\'t change my opinion much.  I\'m just getting sick and tired of the negative image these guys are putting on the game.

The trainers of the top horses in the country constantly being in the news for drug violations is certainly doing damage to the sport.

The guy has had numerous suspensions, including a 6 month suspension this past year.  That is hardly a slap on the wrist.

Did Barry Irwin write that post?  I am just amazed to see Captain Anti Drug Crusader giving someone that probably doesn\'t deserve it the benefit of the doubt.

Interesting to see one of the biggest cheaters in the game still allowed at the biggest meet of the year.  He won the opening day stake.  Great endorsement for the sport.

Isn\'t he awaiting punishment on his latest violation?  The hearing in Texas was scheduled for July 18th, but there seems to be no new reports.

What makes the cheaters?  Ummm, I don\'t know...combined 2,451 positives maybe?

Just because you think people cheat doesn\'t mean you can\'t win.  I\'d still like to see the game cleaned up.  It is a sad part of the game that every time a bettor complains about something it is attributed to losing at the windows.  It can\'t possibly be that the sport is fukked up right now, can it?

I have to admit, I haven\'t payed much attention lately to Student Council.  Are you still involved with the horse?  If so, why use such a blatant cheater as Asmussen?  have you given up the fight?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/delmarraces/20070716-9999-lz1s16delmeds.html

As for the pars, knowing what the par is for a certain class of horse, and using them to calculate the figures, are two different things.  Litfin was referring to the calculated par that is done from figures.

I know that pars are not used to make figures at the medium and large sized tracks.  As for the small ones, I\'m not so sure.

Whether they can legally control the data is another story that will play out eventually.

Tiago.

I know what he is thinking, but he is wrong.

I thought immediately that Pletcher is crazy not to run AGS in the Preakness.  The numbers certainly would seem to back that up.

http://thoroughbredtimes.net/national-news/2007/January/12/Sadler-Cerin-face-medication-complaints-in-California.aspx

You can add John Sadler and Vladimir Cerin to the list.