Let\'s get something straight .First off I have one account here .I don\'t play that childish game of different accounts. I tried to get on and I could not.if I have something to say I say it under my name period.

I am sure you are aware that they put letters that reflect current track condition G for gusty dot for sloppy and double dot(Like gulf has been)So they are saying be aware that they number we gave this horse may not truly reflect the effort he put out that day.I for one play thru double dot (heavy track) as a non event.I did it saturday with frosted,\\.Now of course you term it \'\'track changing speeds,split variant or whatever else.

Ok I am back ,maybe it was a computer glitch.For some reason the WOOD always seems to get your juices flowing.Let\'s talk about this split variant thing,now we have established that I cannot discuss numbers because I don\'t know how to make them.Let\'s assume they got the wood,gazelle numbers wrong.They now give a horse an 8 that should have got 10 and so on.So we now have 15 .20 horses with wrong numbers on their sheet.Well if you believe that ,they always get it wrong for the last 25,30 years then they must have a completely contaminated data base with wrong numbers.So you have people like me betting horses we believe are for ward moving(and they are not) and tossing horses who might have a shot because of bad numbers.How stupid does that sound.?More importantly the big owners and trainers that use them(I am sure  you know they have those)Are getting the wrong information about a horse they want to run in a graded stake.Oh yes I forgot the big owners and trainers use them because they are cheaper.Oh yes we must save 300,500,1000 a month and use inferior numbers.Do you realize how silly that sounds.

Agreed the Kobe price was no bargain.As far as Nevin goes now you are talking.

I will give you a perfect example why our theories are so different.In his analysis of Kobe on saturday he says horses that come back off a layoff and run a new top are a bet against.When a 4 year old comes back and runs a pair up or a number 1/4 to 1-1/4 points better than his top he is as live as anything you would want to play.You want 4-6 weeks coming in and a decent 3 yr old line.He said the horse reacted to every new top he ran ,not on my numbers.Forget the numbers we don\'t even agree on what a good line is.

No argument with turf horses.They tend to stay in a very tight range and sometimes run  the same number or close to it 4 or 5 times in row.Because of that the pattern reads are less frequent, with odds plays being the way to go.

OK,I play patterns because horses don\'t go up or down in a straight line.I have looked at your guys sheets and the consistent pair ups make it very difficult for me to find any pattern.I believe horses if healthy improve from 2to 3 ,3to 4 and 4-5(years of age).On RAGOZIN I can see it ,small moves which are very strong to me.With this guy I just don;t see it.Look there are all kinds of patterns that I play.Let;s take Bolo\'s pattern he ran 5\'\' late 2 yr old.He comes back first out 3yr old 4\'\' a one point move which is very strong.The winners pattern was also strong but he was 1/2.Bolo was 5-1 and I will take the odds every time.Of course Smith tried to win from the parking lot,but that is part of the deal.I have never heard anyone say here \'\'Oh so and so just came back first out 3 or 4 years old  and made a small move ,never.

Yes I am illogical because I dare use a better product then this pair up mambo you sell.

So now you are putting me in charge of what people say.?Look I handle myself a certain way,so you should take that up with whoever you like, not me.

NO,you don\'t state your case properly,if anything, you made an ambiguous statement,not really directly at anyone.I assumed because of our  disagreements you meant me.

I called you a name?If they run him in a stake ,it should be in Finger Lakes.

\'\'Remember the cover-up is worse than the crime\'\'You said that you are not saying Unrivaled(the second coming of Seattle Slew) was not a derby contender.By the way he was a complete toss on the \'\'off the rail product\'\'.You then in your TG analysis called him a \'\'live longshot\'\'with the 1/2 winner and gorgeous bird who also finished up the track.Now if he is a contender in your view in the blue grass doesn\'t that make him a possible derby horse.? So which is it?They should ship in back to PARX and run him in a cheap allowance race.

Pesci.

Well I have tried the pasta(their product)and I like it better.Look I have looked at your numbers and i had a very difficult time with them.Let\'s just say we agree to disagree.Have a nice Easter or Passover.

Sure.