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#1
Ask the Experts / Re: Frankel
June 29, 2008, 05:13:21 AM
gohorse10 Wrote:
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> I have had it with you all bad  mouthing trainers.
> What makes Asmussen or Dutrow Cheaters? Do they
> give the horses something that is illegal that you
> can not test for?
>  Asmussen has stables of horses all over the
> country. He is bound to make a mistake with legal
> therapeutic drugs. Each state has different
> medication rules.
>  If you all think cheating is rampant in horse
> racing stop betting.
> A lot of you made money in the  Suburban today.
> Was the winner juiced by Dutrow.

The excuse that they have stables all over the country only flies for a positive or two, maybe three.  Not 15 or 30 or 77.  Is someone holding a gun to their heads and making them take 120 or 200 horses?  If they can\'t watch their affairs and make sure they can follow the rules with that many horses, then they cut back in their horses.  If it\'s one of the assistants\' faults, why haven\'t we ever seen their heads roll?  Ever recall one of them fired for their mistake?

Another thing, Asmussen\'s positive was for a very powerful blocker.  Even if Asmussen wasn\'t trying to have the horse run through an injury by blocking the pain, why the hell was a horse running who received such a medicine such a short time ago that it could still be in his system?
#2
Ask the Experts / Re: Asmussen goes down again
June 27, 2008, 04:02:57 AM
TGJB Wrote:
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> Michael-- there is a LOT going on right now on
> this, and I myself am spending a fair amount of
> time on it (just got off the phone with a
> reporter). More to follow, hopefully by the time I
> see you in Saratoga.

For a dude who spends so much time talking to reporters, you sure aren\'t quoted much.  

How long does it take you to puff out your chest each morning, or do your dreams of self-importance during the night make it so that you wake up with your chest puffed?
#3
Ask the Experts / Re: Asmussen goes down again
June 27, 2008, 03:54:44 AM
TGJB Wrote:
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> I\'m going to wait until this shakes out to comment
> further, but I have to say one thing now. Hegarty
> does some terrific reporting, but he on accasion
> has gone astray (as he did about rebates and
> certain other things in articles concerning me)
> when he injects his opinions into stories.
> Lidocaine and other anesthetics are certainly
> dangerous to the health of a horse if improperly
> used, but they are not preformance enhancers, any
> more than aspirin is a performance enhancer when
> you have a headache. Performance enhancers raise
> an athlete\'s maximum level of ability beyond what
> it would otherwise be-- EPO, bronchodilators like
> Clenbuterol, alkalyzing agents, those are
> performance enhancers. Painkillers allow an
> athlete to perform to his maximum natural ability,
> but don\'t expand it.

Hegarty\'s right.  Lidocaine\'s a Class 2 drug:

Class 2: Drugs that have a high potential to affect performance, but less of a potential than drugs in Class 1. These drugs are 1) not generally accepted as therapeutic agents in racing horses, or 2) they are therapeutic agents that have a high potential for abuse. Drugs in this class include: psychotropic drugs, certain nervous system and cardiovascular system stimulants, depressants, and
neuromuscular blocking agents. Injectable local anesthetics are included in this class because of their high potential for abuse as nerve blocking agents.

Clen, on the other hand, is a Class 3 drug, with LESS potential to affect performance:

Class 3: Drugs that may or may not have generally accepted medical use in the racing horse, but the pharmacology of which suggests less potential to affect performance than drugs in Class 2. Drugs in this class include bronchodilators and other drugs with primary effects on the autonomic nervous system, procaine, antihistamines with sedative properties and the high-ceiling diuretics.