Very nice site. Congrats.  I do suggest that after the Flash intro, you automatically enter the site, or make that Enter Site message easier to read. It\'s very dark and barely shows up at all.

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  You know, just looking over the lineup for the Expo, it\'s amazing how few if any NEW names there are. These are the same folks who\'ve been around for 30+ years.
 
  What does that tell ya?

   20,000  bet 13 mtp early on the 2/8 at AQU in the 4th. Let\'s see how they do.

  Hope you read the sheets better than my posting.

  Did I say you couldn\'t get a price anymore?

  I said some 12-1\'s of the past  now likely pay 2-1 since so many now have/buy figures that were in the hands of a select few back then.

  Ask Jerry, since he goes back to the good old days.

 lol.  They used to get those odds about 30 years ago.

 Now you too can enjoy 2-1 on what used to be 12-1.   GO APPLE23 GO!

   Ok, you make some interesting points. But BREAKING EVEN or LOSING 2 or 3%  still requires some level of SKILL.

   Now, I can think of some ways where you could do that with no skill but we won\'t go there.

   If it was such a no brainer strategy, then the big money from Wall Street would be pumping 50 billion a year through the rebate shops , picking up every last loose cent from the game.

   The notion that as the take gets lowered , smarter players [ like me ;-) ] would get back in the game, and kill the prices on all the winners is , well, fanciful. So if the take is zero, what happens then, winners on average pay less than fair value?  Give me a 5%-10% takeout , I\'ll take my chances against the \'smart\' money.

   And Cozzene, 15% is not a very low take, its a lower take, something completely different.

  Hmmmm, Thehoarsehorseplayer is correct when he says the big boys are in the money churning game. Mostly , anyhow, you still have to have an opinion (or information) 15% or so better than the crowd to play a break even game. Then the rebate is your profit margin.

  Now, the logic that says a universally lowered takeout would hurt the rebaters escapes me. Maybe you could explain the math there.

  Maybe you are saying that a 10% take with NO REBATE would be a problem for them, and I would agree.  If they were still able to get a 2-3% rebate, then the game would still be in thier favor, and the rest of the players would simply lose less to the track and state.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8351371%255E2722,00.html

Consider how RARELY this happens here. Or should I say , how rarely it gets noticed.


Now this is a good one, explains everything, especially the stretchouts. Recipe included!

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/horsehealth/hhview.asp?recno=41145

  The NYRA nerving policy is ancient, as is it\'s \'psuedo\' public disclosure..  Another reason that information MUST be posted is so someone claiming the horse can\'t say they got damaged goods.

  Bets like that very rarely win.  

  No one with a decent opinion would bet that way, so its almost always a lunatic or a mistake.

http://espn.go.com/horse/breederscup03/s/2003/1025/1646801.html

  I just looked at the ride, its clear that Day\'s horse was 5 lengths the best and you wuz robbed.

  Have you considered a lawsuit?OPM wrote:

  They could always get a Ouija Board and ask for guidance from Oscar Barrera.

  maybe 30 years too late.

  Yeah, I think I just started noticing sheet horses getting play , sometime in the last week or so.  Or was it the 5th week of 1987 ?