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Title: Pletcher
Post by: Silver Charm on October 03, 2015, 04:23:39 PM
Was almost nowhere to be found today. Ready Dancer was ease. Constitution was last. Nothing at Keeneland.

Sets himself up for 50% Strike Rate at Gulfstream in 90 days......
Title: Re: Pletcher
Post by: Fairmount1 on October 03, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
He is just a great horseman.  Solid, solid guy with the horses at hallendale beach.

Read a quote once where it was said that he brings his horses along at saratoga from the beginning of his program is why his 2yos are so good there.  No one else is doing that at all....only him.  Just a real smart dude.  One friend tells me he (pletcher) is a better handicapper of 3yo derby preps than anyone else.  Smart guy for sure.

Parx magician worked some tricks at keeneland today.  Rotw keeps on giving....
Title: Ramon
Post by: TheBull on October 03, 2015, 07:35:16 PM
Not to mention 5 wins at parx; a nose away from a 6 bagger on a scratch filled card
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: Breakage on October 30, 2015, 03:19:15 PM
He just a great horseman while the Preciado\'s of the world use the magic go fast.

It is ridiculous, it is like coming down on AAA guys and saying oh Bonds and Sosa were just great hitters.

Liam\'s Map trumps all of Preciado\'s move up horses in his entire lifetime.

the first and third in the most evenly matched 14 horse race in the history of the sport was just icing.
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: Bet Twice on October 30, 2015, 03:32:21 PM
I thought the Pletcher haters would be in hiding after he goes 2/4 in BC races but you guys continue to impress me.  The argument had been that he uses some \"magic\" the rest of the year but fails on big days due to the increased testing.  Let me guess, now that he wins the argument must be that he has figured out a way to beat the BC testing?
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: miff on October 30, 2015, 03:39:36 PM
Bet,

You kidding or what? You didn\'t see that giant move ups today by the Pletcher horses?


Mike
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: Bet Twice on October 30, 2015, 03:49:16 PM
You\'re right Miff, I hadn\'t looked at Liam\'s Map...he was a slug before today!
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: miff on October 30, 2015, 03:55:04 PM
Bet,

We need to drink more Kool Aid!

Mike
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: TGJB on October 30, 2015, 04:05:50 PM
Seriously what the hell are you guys talking about. Not that this is even worth taking time to address, but I went into Pletcher at the BC in the seminar. When it\'s not in California he\'s about the same as most.

Re Liam\'s Map, nice hit.
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: Fairmount1 on October 30, 2015, 04:38:29 PM
Whoa!!  Pletcher had 3 horses in the Fayette and the Distaff.  Fayette a non-BC race for the record.  Map laid over the field and why isn\'t he in the classic after seeing that?
Title: Re: Ramon
Post by: Bet Twice on October 30, 2015, 07:53:53 PM
The point I was making had nothing to do with the seminar it was a response to the idiotic statement above.  Tap won with LM, who towered over the field, and Maria, who was as likely to win as anyone in that race, yet still the accusations fly that he is somehow cheating.  The argument has always been that his poor BC record proves that he is cheating, and now that he wins 2 out of 4 and that argument is weakened, he is still cheating....just silly.

Btw, I bet a total of $50 on a couple of p3/p4s and lost so had no horse in the race so to speak.