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Title: KD r9 - Green Mask
Post by: Furious Pete on September 14, 2015, 03:35:15 PM
Great race coming up at Kentucky now, I really like Green Mask here, I actually have that Meydan race even faster than the 2 at TG.
Title: Re: KD r9 - Green Mask
Post by: Furious Pete on September 14, 2015, 03:42:56 PM
oh well
Title: Question to TGJB (and you others!)
Post by: Furious Pete on October 28, 2015, 04:00:38 PM
If Green Mask\'s figure from Meydan actually was a 0 and not a 2, and given the way he ran last time out at Kentucky when he ran impressive on what looked like being one furlong too far, how would you read his sheet coming into this one?

I really like this horse, I think it is my best bet in this entire Breeders Cup.

(P.S: I have read the seminar, just wondered if you would like him even more if that figure was a 0 and not a 2.)
Title: Re: Question to TGJB (and you others!)
Post by: phil23 on October 28, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
For what it\'s worth, I almost thought something funny was going on with the betting on this guy during the past week. When pre-entries were released he was priced up at 15:1 by Watchmaker and anywhere from about 8:1 to 14:1 on odds checker. And then, slowly, ever single day, he was bet down across the board. Each morning I\'d wake up and another place would have gone blue and eventually he was well into single digits.

They drew the race and Watchmaker priced him up at 10:1 and the ML (Bataglia I believe) priced him up at 15:1. But across the pond he\'s well short of those again, at 6:1 or 7:1.

Given Ward\'s success with Undrafted at Ascot thought maybe that\'s why the UK types were betting him but...at every place? They could have just been playing follow the leader and moving on air possibly (a bookie...never...) but just sort of got the sense this really was actual people taking a serious position on him.

Dunno...it just felt odd.
Title: Re: Question to TGJB (and you others!)
Post by: Furious Pete on October 28, 2015, 04:46:04 PM
Cheers Phil that\'s interesting, I know he\'s looking real good down at Kentucky too, physical wise, anyone care to confirm this? Miff? (You always seem to be in the know)

Sometimes I get this strange feeling when I read those sheets that a horse really is ready to explode and run a huuuge one, that there\'s a monster in there just screaming to get out and this one really is one of those, when I visualize that race on saturday I almost feel like roaring myself! (wow Hellmers are you reading this??)

That feeling is not always right of course, it wasn\'t last time at Kentucky but he got a really tough trip and it also seemed like the distance was a touch too long, so I\'m not ready to give up just yet. And I like him even better for this. I got on at 10/1 right after the draw which I think were a good draw, and I\'m looking to top up more come saturday I think. Even though I will have to take shorter odds.
Title: Re: Question to TGJB (and you others!)
Post by: miff on October 28, 2015, 04:55:06 PM
Only that Undrafted looked better than Green Mask when they worked together.
Title: Re: Question to TGJB (and you others!)
Post by: Furious Pete on October 28, 2015, 04:59:35 PM
Cheers. It\'ll be a fun race.
Title: Re: Question to TGJB (and you others!)
Post by: mjellish on October 28, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
My guy knows undrafted well and saw his work the other day.  Says he couldn\'t be doing any better and looks unbelievable in person.  Dunno what I think that means in terms of his chance to win. I haven\'t gotten to that race yet as I\'ve been focusing on late Pick 4 and Pick 6 sequences.  But figured I would share as its going around the backside anyway.