Good luck to all in the Derby (better luck to those of you playing the same horses that I will be playing).
It should be an exciting derby with some decent races on the undercard.
I will not make any predictions but I know that a lot of people whose opinions I respect have vary different ideas this year.
It should be an interesting race and pace, trip and track condition will likely determine the outcome.
So many questions to be answered?
Is Smarty Jones the next Spend A Buck or just another Mr. Frisky?
Is The Cliff\'s Edge another Strike the Gold or just another Halory Hunter or Stephen Got Even?
Does Lion Heart really have a Lion\'s Heart?
Can Read the Footnotes bounce back like Monarchos or Thunder Gulch or will he nose dive like so many others that flashed brilliant races at 2 and early 3 only to fall apart at Derby time?
Can Frankel, Dickenson, Mullins or Asmussen pull off some of their \"Super\" trainer magic?
Can a 21 year-old woman become the youngest trainer and first female trainer ever to win the Derby?
Can Action This Day break the BC jinx?
Can one of the other longshots get a good trip and improve enough to pull off a shocker?
Will Jerry Bailey get a Derby mount?
Will Andy Beyer finally get off the Derby bagel?
Will one of the jockeys be wearing a \"mastercard\" patch in the \"Visa\" triple crown?
And finally the most interesting question of all - will TGJB and Robspierre actually both cash on the same horse in the Derby?
It take a little over 2 minutes to find out...
Chris
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Amen
derby wrote:
>Good luck to all in the Derby (better luck to those of you playing the same horses that I will be playing).
>It should be an exciting derby with some decent races on the undercard.
>I will not make any predictions but I know that a lot of people whose opinions I respect have vary different ideas this year.
>It should be an interesting race and pace, trip and track condition will likely determine the outcome.
>So many questions to be answered?
>Is Smarty Jones the next Spend A Buck or just another Mr. Frisky?
Spend a Buck... and Mr. Frisky was a darn good one. He was sick come the Preakness and its hard to say if it might not of impacted him Derby day.
>Is The Cliff\'s Edge another Strike the Gold or just another Halory Hunter or Stephen Got Even?
Still undetermined. Losing two front shoes in that mess had to throw him off his game somewhat
>Does Lion Heart really have a Lion\'s Heart?
He may have a big heart. He went somewhat faster early than he had to. Smith said he heard the crowd roar and thought it was time to scoot. Its hard to say right now, but that track may not have been the benefit to Rion its popularly thought to have been.
>Can Read the Footnotes bounce back like Monarchos or Thunder Gulch or will he nose dive like so many others that flashed brilliant races at 2 and early 3 only to fall apart at Derby time?
No..but he had some slight trouble and came out of the race congested. Violette is pure class not even referring to the problems.
>Can Frankel, Dickenson, Mullins or Asmussen pull off some of their \"Super\" trainer magic?
No...the backstretch security must have been commendable and Tapit couldn\'t swill Guiness during the race.
>Can a 21 year-old woman become the youngest trainer and first female trainer ever to win the Derby?
Almost
>Can Action This Day break the BC jinx?
No
>Can one of the other longshots get a good trip and improve enough to pull off a shocker?
Limehouse did to some extent
>Will Jerry Bailey get a Derby mount?
No but I wish he had...lol
>Will Andy Beyer finally get off the Derby bagel?
NO..is Andy on the lifetime derby bagel? I tuned in for his Friday night DRF chat. I asked several questions but the moderator didn\'t think they were good enough I guess. One question I asked was \"Everyone acknowledges that if Andy isn\'t the father of modern speed figures he is certainly a huge contributor to their development...however in weighing Andy\'s Derby opinion can he indicate the last two Derby winners he selected.\"....or words to that effect. That question went unanswered...lol
>Will one of the jockeys be wearing a \"mastercard\" patch in the \"Visa\" triple crown?
Sure why not.
>And finally the most interesting question of all - will TGJB and Robspierre actually both cash on the same horse in the Derby?
Has Robspierre ever REALLY cashed a derby horse? I mean besides listing six with a shot?
>It take a little over 2 minutes to find out...
Quite a bit over 2 minutes this year...lol
>Chris
Can Smarty Jones hold together for 2 more races and reel in about $12M in 5 weeks to shatter the all time earnings record?
If Smarty Jones does win the Triple Crown, will Roy Champman\'s heart (Smarty\'s owner) survive the stress? Not to make light of something serious but that would not be the worse way to go...
Will the fact that Rock Hard Ten and Eddington did not make the Derby field end up costing Smarty Jones more than RHT and Ed (both are now fast, improving and perhaps most importantly - fresh)?
Will the heavens open up again before the Preakness and give Smarty Jones yet another sloppy track to do his thing on?
Will Nick Zito get a new blacksmith?
Should you just ignore the Derby when it comes to evaluating all the also-rans lines heading into their next race?
Will Lion Heart run second again?
Will Magna shutout all other account wagering services on Preakness day?
Will Magna move the Preakness to Woodbine?
Will Magna please go away...
Chris
derby1592 wrote:
> Can Smarty Jones hold together for 2 more races and reel in
> about $12M in 5 weeks to shatter the all time earnings record?
One race at a time. Who can be so sure the track favored front runners? It may have been tiring during that race. If it was a heavy type track it could have gotten to Lion Heart before he could get to the wire. The Preakess could be his chance to turn the tables.
> If Smarty Jones does win the Triple Crown, will Roy Champman\'s
> heart (Smarty\'s owner) survive the stress? Not to make light of
> something serious but that would not be the worse way to go...
Not a bad way to go at all. Hopefully he\'ll have little fun with the 5.8 million he won yesterday before then.
> Will the fact that Rock Hard Ten and Eddington did not make the
> Derby field end up costing Smarty Jones more than RHT and Ed
> (both are now fast, improving and perhaps most importantly -
> fresh)?
Ambush shooters got Funny Cide last year, no reason to think the bandits won\'t be laying in wait this year.
> Will the heavens open up again before the Preakness and give
> Smarty Jones yet another sloppy track to do his thing on?
Just keep in mind Smarty\'s -3.3 was on a dry track
> Will Nick Zito get a new blacksmith?
No, Zito will shoe Cliff himself. :)
> Should you just ignore the Derby when it comes to evaluating
> all the also-rans lines heading into their next race?
Based on the figures is the race finish implausible?
> Will Lion Heart run second again?
See above
> Will Magna shutout all other account wagering services on
> Preakness day?
Bet Shop Wars are good for the public. Youbet turned a profit this year. How can they be bad?
> Will Magna move the Preakness to Woodbine?
Is Stronach related to D.Wayne Lukas?
> Will Magna please go away...
Never trust a man that changes his trainers more often than he changes his underwear.
> Chris