At the Jockey Club roundtable, a very interesting presentation.
Starts at around the 53 min mark.
http://jockeyclub.com/default.asp?section=RT&year=2015&area=99
Gotta make more room on the Bowery for the future \"stat\" horse racing bettors.
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> Gotta make more room on the Bowery for the future
> \"stat\" horse racing bettors.
Yup . . . you aren\'t wholly familiar with the game\'s personalities and their personal predelictions and quirks, you have NO shot. None. Zero.
Top,
Stat players would argue that quirks/predilections are inside the stats
Mike
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They might . . . which would just be one more reason while many of them will be taking their overnight rests atop the grates fronting the restaurant-supply stores hard by Chinatown.
Don\'t know what kind of stats they\'re talking about, but there are also the kind we published for the second at Saratoga...
Jerry Brown, Master of the ABC....Always Be Selling. Well done sir!
I\'ll gently remind that 40 years ago they mocked sheet players as practitioners of voodoo or worse.
Until they picked the pockets of the mockers.
Difference between 40 years ago and now is there was almost no sophisticated data back then,today it\'s all over the place.
Incidentally, before the sheets there was a small group who \"knew\" stuff almost no one else did.They did well vs the average horse player.
A certain occasional poster here I believe was the first to publish trainer stats.
Re \"selling\", the hell I do. The subject came up 10 minutes after a first timer won that was trained by a guy who was 3 for 8 with first timers in maiden claimers (2 others in the money), with a $4.85 ROI. This one by a 19% first out sire. Jockey trainer combo 32% with a $4.12 ROI.
Having said that, I agree that stats are a blunt instrument. It\'s just as wrong to apply them to all situations as it is to discount them completely (Friedman\'s position).