Great analysis! I was able to punch a few tri\'s and exactas and get out for the weekend.
Patrick
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Great call TGAB. Thanks. See ya next Saturday. Bring hats
Nice pick !!!!
Nailed it nice call.
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> Nailed it nice call.
And, TG said to use the favorite (who ran 2nd and completed the fat EX).
Wow! What\'s next here, detailed pace discussions? Sartinology?
:)
Rick,
Scribes in ROTW will always refer to speed/front running horses as ground savers as opposed to pace/race dynamic controllers.That fits better with \"sheet\" theory.
Winner did not win because he saved ground, he won because he was lone speed and controlled a modest early pace and sprinted home.
A ROTW winner nevertheless and excellent pick.
Mike
Welcome to the assertion board.
Okay Mike, I\'m gonna take the bait, at least for one post.
The Lake George featured a MUCH more extreme slow pace scenario (they went the last sixteenth in 5 4/5 and a couple of horses closed two lengths into it, so they went about 5 2/5). Yet somehow Feathered didn\'t hold on. How is that possible?
JB,
Never said every horse that gets a soft pace/loose lead/favorable dynamics will win. Not too many students of racing will suggest that a contender on a soft loose lead is not without a substantial advantage.Nothing to do with saving ground.
\"You guys\" refuse to acknowledge that pace has any relevance as to a races outcome which is off the wall.
Mike
1) I can\'t speak for anyone else but I do think pace can matter in extreme situations (especially slow paces, which create real traffic/ground loss problems for closers).
2) \"Nothing to do with saving ground\" is a) nuts, b) an unsupported assertion, and c) exactly the kind of thing you just accused \"us\" of doing.
Never saw a ROTW scribe suggest that a horse was the lone speed or use similar words to suggest why the horse could win.... maybe I missed it.
I have used the term lone speed often in write-ups, usually followed by the words \"save ground\".
This gets into semantics, but my view is that it\'s an advantage because it\'s a disadvantage for closers for reasons I mentioned, not because the horse in front runs any better (and as with Feathered, there are a million examples of ones that don\'t. But the closers who drew outside in that race were screwed the way the race was run-- their figures will be better than their results. Which is when we give out \"buried\" marks (\"!\").
JB just a short answer on a complicated topic but the winner was in receipt of six pounds which as you know is a lot for sophomores around two bends. bbb
Yes. There are lots of factors in handicapping. Which we all agree... But this is not about that.
I realize that you do not get the configurations from equibase, but not being aware of how the movement of the turf rails determines how turf races are run, is a fatal flaw for most handicappers.
Thankfully, for them, on big days the rails are down; Arlington excluded. bbb
What in the world makes you think we don\'t get all the rails, at every track, every day.