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Title: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: rezlegal on June 06, 2015, 06:14:46 PM
Since the people on this Board are both horse racing fans and, likely sports fans generally, the roar-the only word to describe it-as AP came down the stretch was something I have never experienced in 69 years. I have been fortunate enough to be at games 5 and 7 of the Knicks 1970 championship, the Rangers Stanley cup etc etc and it isn\'t even close. This was something to witness and hear and with apologies to Sam Rosen--the experience of that roar will last a lifetime. I refuse to ruin the moment by taking a cheap shot at NYRA\'s inability to provide internet nothwithstanding their promises to the contrary .
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: TGJB on June 06, 2015, 06:18:20 PM
Bathrooms work?
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: rezlegal on June 06, 2015, 06:20:00 PM
a miracle- they did!
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: toppled on June 06, 2015, 07:27:11 PM
By the time they got to the Belmont some of the women on the 2nd & 3rd floors were using the men\'s room.  From what I hear, this is nothing new on Belmont day.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: jbelfior on June 06, 2015, 10:18:20 PM
Have never heard anything like it. The place shook. Will never forget it.

Good Luck,
Joe B
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: FrankD. on June 07, 2015, 03:55:37 AM
One million percent better than last year, atmosphere was pure ELECTRICITY.

Internet was not so great but improved from last year, plenty of food and beverage, better crowd control and I\'m truly glad I was there live and in person to see a awesome performance by a very deserving champion.

We parked in the outer reaches of the green lot, stayed to see Matterhorn get clobbered at the start of the 13th race, a lil bit of the not so bad Goo Goo Dolls and left the lot in a matter of a few minutes right onto the Cross Island northbound for a very easy ride home.

Sold my $75 seats for a nice profit, hung in the backyard on a beautiful afternoon in comfort, got killed on all my posted bets, got out on Honor Code/Slumber double and was amazed by the tri and super payouts with AP, I was thinking $80 tri and $250 super :)

No NYRA bashing today, security, crowd control, food and beverage was all more than competent. Internet needs to be better, ladies room issue I guess is a one day thing, they did have many porta potties in the backyard, lack of SAM machines in the backyard area but plenty of tellers so betting wasn\'t horrible at all.

A great day all around and connected with Belmont Bob to solve many of the worlds problems!

Frank D.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: jerry on June 07, 2015, 06:26:27 AM
Why is it always the ladies rooms?
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: FrankD. on June 07, 2015, 06:30:19 AM
Jerry,

I guess its a multiple issue sort of like the difference between a pick 3 pick 4 etc... Guys go one at a time while the fillies have a herd mentality traveling in packs!
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: jerry on June 07, 2015, 06:33:25 AM
It\'s got to be more than that. Seriously, the same thing happened at the Preakness this year. What to they do, flush their losng tickets down the toilet?
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: miff on June 07, 2015, 06:38:06 AM
Anything to get away from the guy they\'re with for a few minutes.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: jerry on June 07, 2015, 06:39:28 AM
Absolutely. You gotta give them credit for trying.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: miff on June 07, 2015, 06:45:51 AM
Very surprised that handle on Belmont down like 10%. Lots of churn lost maybe when no favorites won all day except AP.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: Topcat on June 07, 2015, 06:53:37 AM
Mechanics/efficiencies dictate males will do their business faster.   Zippers quicker.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: FrankD. on June 07, 2015, 07:03:26 AM
less socializing and male bashing as well!
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: jerry on June 07, 2015, 07:27:27 AM
Oh. So the toilets weren\'t malfunctioning. It was just girls being girls. Yea, that will slow the pace of play.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: Paolo on June 07, 2015, 07:29:33 AM
Ladies in the men\'s room is common at CD infield on Derby Day.

Too bad the female urinal device that was pitched years ago never caught on.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: mjellish on June 07, 2015, 08:11:20 AM
Plus they probably serve drinks in there.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: joemama on June 07, 2015, 08:15:29 AM
Probably can smoke in there also.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: Topcat on June 08, 2015, 05:16:58 AM
FrankD. Wrote:
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> One million percent better than last year,
> atmosphere was pure ELECTRICITY.
>
> Internet was not so great but improved from last
> year, plenty of food and beverage, better crowd
> control and I\'m truly glad I was there live and in
> person to see a awesome performance by a very
> deserving champion.
>
> We parked in the outer reaches of the green lot,
> stayed to see Matterhorn get clobbered at the
> start of the 13th race, a lil bit of the not so
> bad Goo Goo Dolls and left the lot in a matter of
> a few minutes right onto the Cross Island
> northbound for a very easy ride home.
>
> Sold my $75 seats for a nice profit, hung in the
> backyard on a beautiful afternoon in comfort, got
> killed on all my posted bets, got out on Honor
> Code/Slumber double and was amazed by the tri and
> super payouts with AP, I was thinking $80 tri and
> $250 super :)
>
> No NYRA bashing today, security, crowd control,
> food and beverage was all more than competent.
> Internet needs to be better, ladies room issue I
> guess is a one day thing, they did have many porta
> potties in the backyard, lack of SAM machines in
> the backyard area but plenty of tellers so betting
> wasn\'t horrible at all.
>
> A great day all around and connected with Belmont
> Bob to solve many of the worlds problems!
>
> Frank D.


Not to mention: there are multiple modes of TG figure utilization -- and the way I read them (in conjunction with some strong ancillary info), Saturday in New York was one of the great days, like, ever.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: FrankD. on June 08, 2015, 06:04:02 AM
Top,

Root those Mikita\'s on to the cup! Disappointing 2 years in a row hoping for the Giacomin\'s to meet them in an original 6 final.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: richiebee on June 08, 2015, 07:22:16 AM
Topcat Wrote:
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> Not to mention: there are multiple modes of TG
> figure utilization -- and the way I read them (in
> conjunction with some strong ancillary info),
> Saturday in New York was one of the great days,
> like, ever.

Ah, the TG \"community.\"

Will have to call it my second best Belmont day ever; I had multiple race
wagers ending with Birdstone in 2004.

The TG Community: I threw out Power Alert when I saw Jimmy C\'s post about
scratching PA and the updated post saying that he would indeed run. Had bet
Channel Marker in his two Ky races and could not leave him out here.

TG Analysis: Years ago, I may have looked at Untapable\'s blowout win in the
Mother Goose last year and concluded she was a horse for course; it never
would have mattered to me that she had not equaled her 3YO top. Great call by
JB basically saying that this filly was a toss. T-generate kool aid quaffers
had to be ecstatic when Johnny V immediately guided this filly to the outside.

The Channel Marker/Wedding Party DD was paying $130 when I bet it, ended up
paying $98.

The TG Community (Covel redux): Slumber is a horse I probably never would have
used given that he was winless since Saratoga 2013; since then Slumber had
burned lots of money when favored.

The day before the Belmont, Bad Luck Benny the Exercise Rider called me with a
tale of woe...his long awaited (by both of us) insurance settlement was
delayed until July, and he was tapped out. I asked him if he thought my name
was JG Wentworth, a reference which sailed over his head. I gave him some
(more) cash and a $20 win ticket on Slumber.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: Topcat on June 08, 2015, 07:29:28 AM
richiebee Wrote:
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> Topcat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>  
> > Not to mention: there are multiple modes of TG
> > figure utilization -- and the way I read them
> (in
> > conjunction with some strong ancillary info),
> > Saturday in New York was one of the great days,
> > like, ever.
>
> Ah, the TG \"community.\"
>
> Will have to call it my second best Belmont day
> ever; I had multiple race
> wagers ending with Birdstone in 2004.
>
> The TG Community: I threw out Power Alert when I
> saw Jimmy C\'s post about
> scratching PA and the updated post saying that he
> would indeed run. Had bet
> Channel Marker in his two Ky races and could not
> leave him out here.
>
> TG Analysis: Years ago, I may have looked at
> Untapable\'s blowout win in the
> Mother Goose last year and concluded she was a
> horse for course; it never
> would have mattered to me that she had not equaled
> her 3YO top. Great call by
> JB basically saying that this filly was a toss.
> T-generate kool aid quaffers
> had to be ecstatic when Johnny V immediately
> guided this filly to the outside.
>
> The Channel Marker/Wedding Party DD was paying
> $130 when I bet it, ended up
> paying $98.
>
> The TG Community (Covel redux): Slumber is a horse
> I probably never would have
> used given that he was winless since Saratoga
> 2013; since then Slumber had
> burned lots of money when favored.
>
> The day before the Belmont, Bad Luck Benny the
> Exercise Rider called me with a
> tale of woe...his long awaited (by both of us)
> insurance settlement was
> delayed until July, and he was tapped out. I asked
> him if he thought my name
> was JG Wentworth, a reference which sailed over
> his head. I gave him some
> (more) cash and a $20 win ticket on Slumber.



Was stunned by the final straight price on CM, and backup prices were ludicrous.  Too many smartasses.  Slumber, considering Chad is at the controls, was the other way around.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: Topcat on June 08, 2015, 07:31:20 AM
FrankD. Wrote:
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> Top,
>
> Root those Mikita\'s on to the cup! Disappointing 2
> years in a row hoping for the Giacomin\'s to meet
> them in an original 6 final.


Wanted Original Six match in the worst way, since I consider Bolts the superior contingent, excepting their (\"relative\") lack of experience.  Expect a sustained sweat, since Bolts are jiffy-quick, and Bishop\'s better than most believe.
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: mistermoose on June 08, 2015, 01:48:52 PM
topcat- My brother is very tight with Phil Bauer, he helped train
 Pure Fun for us a couple years back before he went private. He has
 struggled but he told my brother the owner and some friends were
 laying the wood on channel marker. This is why the price was a little
 out of expectations. If you noticed first flash was around 3-1 I
 believe. I even got a photo (similar to WesWelker) after the score.
 I have a hard time betting big when trainer is 0-26 slump, so I
 didn\'t make a windfall on it lol
Title: Re: BEING THERE TODAY
Post by: Topcat on June 09, 2015, 12:21:45 AM
mistermoose Wrote:
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> topcat- My brother is very tight with Phil Bauer,
> he helped train
>  Pure Fun for us a couple years back before he
> went private. He has
>  struggled but he told my brother the owner and
> some friends were
>  laying the wood on channel marker. This is why
> the price was a little
>  out of expectations. If you noticed first flash
> was around 3-1 I
>  believe. I even got a photo (similar to
> WesWelker) after the score.
>  I have a hard time betting big when trainer is
> 0-26 slump, so I
>  didn\'t make a windfall on it lol

Must have won the world.