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Title: Derby Day Track Speed
Post by: Deadrockstar on May 06, 2015, 07:29:09 AM
TGJB --

Is the variance in the track speeds a function of watering and drying out because of the longer gap between races?

BTW, Jake H. posted that A.P. paired up and is set up perfectly for the Preakness. Here, some are saying he\'ll back up off a top and still win. FWIW
Title: Re: Derby Day Track Speed
Post by: TGJB on May 06, 2015, 08:13:55 AM
Dead-- I saw their posts and figures. And I would certainly think the time between races would have a lot to do with speed changes being more extreme and variable (up and down).

That\'s the kind of day that shows why figure making would be hard to automate. I happened to notice that Brisnet (which has computer generated figures) has Protonico running the best figure all week.
Title: Re: Derby Day Track Speed
Post by: miff on May 06, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
\"I happened to notice that Brisnet (which has computer generated figures) has Protonico running the best figure all week\"


...brisnet had Zippy Chippy fast...pa-leeeeze!
Title: Re: Derby Day Track Speed
Post by: Furious Pete on May 06, 2015, 08:32:17 AM
LOL :)
Title: Re: Derby Day Track Speed
Post by: moosepalm on May 06, 2015, 06:10:35 PM
miff Wrote:
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> ...brisnet had Zippy Chippy fast...pa-leeeeze!


Miff, you can question some of the verities of figure making, but when you go after Zippy Chippy, you\'ve crossed the line.

Zippy has some distinctions that will never be equalled in this grand sport:

- He out ran a baseball player (he also lost to one)
- He spotted a harness horse a 20 length lead, and nipped him at the wire
- He was acquired as a 4-year old in a trade for an \'88 pickup truck.
- He was banned from Finger Lakes for failing to leave the gate three times in a row.
- He was banned from Finger Lakes (I have to say that twice to make it credible)
- He lost his 100th and final race, as second betting choice, finishing last.
- His image and name was used in an English ad campaign to convince kids to stay in school.

99+% of horses retire into obscurity, and will never be household names.  None will ever become the poster child for what might befall you if you drop out of school.  We will most certainly not see the likes of him again.  Even on days he was supposed to race, we quite often didn\'t see him.