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Title: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: TGJB on January 30, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
Anybody know anyone who has bought them?
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: touchgold on January 30, 2015, 11:57:21 AM
have not bought them....but they offer a free one every week....basically looks like running lines with the sheet number also there....so u see numbers but not on a different  page..it also has a pace projector and  trainer stats
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: TGJB on January 30, 2015, 12:22:35 PM
I know what they are, I\'m trying to figure out if there\'s really a market for something like that at $35. Seems to me the only people who would even consider it would be those switching from their other product.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: prist on January 30, 2015, 01:00:14 PM
Yeah, you guys created a monster. :-) New competitors are using your guys pricing structure. The product must be as good as yours if the price is the same, right? Well, that\'s what the reasoning seems like to me.

No, I haven\'t seen anyone using them.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: gohorse on January 30, 2015, 01:09:41 PM
They are using Timeform PP. Must have partnered with them. I would not use them for free.You might as well just buy sheets. It might work with more mainstream PP.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: TGJB on January 30, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
I considered doing something similar at a much lower price, as a low end product. I didn\'t because I didn\'t want to cannibalize my own customer base, and I assume that\'s why they\'re going for $35. But if there really is a market for that thing-- which I doubt-- it wouldn\'t be a problem to undercut them (with much better figures, too) and take it away.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: prist on January 30, 2015, 02:19:49 PM
Some people like the bells & whistles, I guess ... apparently even some sheet methodology disciples ... [cryptic]
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: Bet Twice on January 30, 2015, 02:43:20 PM
I don\'t think the concept gets any new customers....it\'s just a convenience thing for existing customers.  I\'ve checked out their free race of the week...on one hand it\'s nice to have some PPs with splits, etc....but for someone who is used to seeing things laid out on a grid it\'s tough to get used to....form cycles, etc. aren\'t as readily apparent.  If TG offered them I would probably try them out but by not having them it certainly wouldn\'t cause me to switch over to Rags.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: TGJB on February 02, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
So evidently the answer is no, nobody knows anyone who has bought them.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: Rich Curtis on February 02, 2015, 04:00:42 PM
Victory Gallup?
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: TGJB on February 02, 2015, 04:03:55 PM
Last I heard he\'s in Turkey, and if he\'s buying Ragozin I have a real problem. On several levels.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: richiebee on February 03, 2015, 01:18:31 AM
Nothing worse than a low volume client looking for handouts, but I miss the
discounted late P4s from the Stronach tracks...
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: shanahan on February 03, 2015, 02:36:42 AM
Agree on that late pik 4 product.  I think I bought it every day available.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: FrankD. on February 03, 2015, 02:50:43 AM
A GREAT week to kick it off with the X-Country pick 4 starting on Saturday.
Donn & Gulf Turf Handicap in FL with the San Antonio & San Marcus in Cali
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: firmturf on February 03, 2015, 06:43:11 AM
I have a friend that purchased it but he\'s only a once a month player. He emailed me about the new set up, I deleted his e-mail and have not seen the product in person.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: miff on February 03, 2015, 06:52:35 AM
There are many like products on the market,several inexpensive,so its hard to imagine that sales would be great.Basically, it\'s the Timeform model with the RAG figs...whoopie,for only $35 smackers.
Title: Re: New Ragozin PP Product
Post by: fjmb on February 03, 2015, 12:48:05 PM
They\'re pushing it on Twitter.  It looks cool, but at $35 I don\'t know how successful it will be.  

I guess they partnered with Timeform?