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Title: 0-2-X vs. Claim + Voluntary Class Rise for move-up trainer
Post by: Rick B. on December 26, 2014, 06:18:06 AM
Don\'t think I\'ve ever seen this before.

In Friday\'s 3rd at Hawthorne, #3 Nobiz Like Sue Biz is entered 1st off
the claim for whiz trainer Roger Brueggemann.

This is normally an automatic bet for me if can get 4-1 or more on the
new claim, but the TG pattern shows the formation of the 0-2-X pattern,
with today\'s race being the projected \"X\" race.

Any thoughts? Can a move-up guy overcome the dreaded X race...especially
on a short turnaround? (13 days)

Is the answer what it most always is? (What price?)

Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: 0-2-X vs. Claim + Voluntary Class Rise for move-up trainer
Post by: TGAB on December 26, 2014, 10:39:03 AM
Rick

Took a look at this and I see why you like this guy off the claim. But this one looks difficult given the short rest and competition. Even the slower ones are live, somewhat. If you have a feel for this guy then you might be able to pull the trigger but I can\'t. Don\'t think you\'ll get the ML, maybe 4-1, maybe. Good luck.
Title: Re: 0-2-X vs. Claim + Voluntary Class Rise for move-up trainer
Post by: Tavasco on December 26, 2014, 11:33:52 AM
The top was aided by a big drop is claiming price with a corresponding slower pace.

The subsequent 2 sure looks a reaction to the preceding top especially considering the slow pace (which I do)!

Back at the 25K level I believe will help produce the X. #6 Gyp Rope looks to be a horse in good form albeit too ambitiously placed last out.

The price also looks to be an X based on early 3/1.

I\'ll vote for the X even with the White Knight\'s Magic.
Title: Re: 0-2-X vs. Claim + Voluntary Class Rise for move-up trainer
Post by: Rick B. on December 26, 2014, 12:37:22 PM
Thanks guys. Hard for me to be objective when it is this trainer.
He has been very good to my pockets over the last 20 years.

I passed, and like a trained pig, Nobiz X\'d just as the pattern
suggested.

I will post a reminder when this one runs back.

Thanks for your help.