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Title: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: smalltimer on June 06, 2014, 07:05:27 AM
Medal Count      No treatment

Chrome           Back Pain     2 gm Bute

Matterhorn       Inflammation  2 gm Bute

Curve            Inflammation  2 gm Bute

R.O.C. Mild Inflammation, Articular Cartilage wear and tear,  
                 Adequan 500 mg, Legend 40mg

Matterhorn       Inflammation  2 gm Bute

Samraat          Low Blood Count Vit C and Vit B

Commissioner     Inflammation 2 gm. Bute

Wicked Strong    Abrasion Inside Right Hind Pastern   Bute 10cc IV

General A Rod    Osteoarthritis Polyglycan 5cc, IV., Osteoarthritis  
                 10cc IV, Hydration Therapy Lifeguard NG Tube, Health
                 Maintenance Vitamin 30cc IV

Tonalist         Inflammation 2 gm Bute
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: miff on June 06, 2014, 07:56:40 AM
Trainers being \"nice\" you should see what any claimers vet record looks like today.
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: covelj70 on June 06, 2014, 08:20:20 AM
thank you very much for posting this, much appreciated
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: Old Mr. Boston on June 06, 2014, 08:37:36 AM
Could someone please explain what information here is significant, I truly know very little about equine meds. Thanks so much in advance.
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: phil23 on June 06, 2014, 08:57:56 AM
I\'ll 2nd this sentiment. Low blood count on Samraat...that does not sound good but as stated above no idea what it would mean for the race.  Anyone have thoughts on these treatments?
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: miff on June 06, 2014, 09:00:55 AM
Allllll vanilla, jugs, little pain meds, lubes, ordinary maintenance stuff. Go to NYS Gaming Commission website for all three days of all meds given to the the horses in the grade 1 races....nutin to speak of.

If someone is gonna cheat,it wouldn\'t be too bright to list it.
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: Bet Twice on June 06, 2014, 12:50:22 PM
I certainly like the idea of making vet records available for transparency sake but I can\'t see actually using them for handicapping purposes.  Would think you would need to be a vet to draw any conclusions, and probably not even then until you actually examine the horse.
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: touchgold on June 08, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
this to me, was very important and hope it becomes the standard. I admit not knowing much about the treatment,but  I do know low blood count not good. Abrasions etc, not good. ROC and GAR seemed to be hurting....and the horses with just one treatment or none at all, medal count, were the tri....cc was also treated same, as was matterhorn/matusak......anyway, it helped me toss ws gar roc.....was toosing cc already.....and that was a big piece of the puzzle
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: smalltimer on June 08, 2014, 01:19:27 PM
No question, in this particular race, less proved to be more.
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: kekomi on June 08, 2014, 10:16:41 PM
low red blood cell counts are red flags in human atheletes for recent cessation of epo. works the same in horses and other animals

a low red blood cell count is anemia.

low white blood cell counts can come from having had a bad infection. most other low white blood cell counts come from pretty serious things like leukemia
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: tommydw2000 on June 13, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
are vet reports available for all races or just major races? If available how would one go about accessing the vet report at the track he was planning on betting?
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: miff on June 13, 2014, 10:54:32 AM
Vet reports are not available on a daily basis, only for big races, so far. Industry wrestling with disclosure of all vet records to public. Very difficult issue,horsemen mainly diabolically opposed,authorities on the fence, at least in NY.
Title: Re: Vet Reports Belmont 6/5/14. FWIW
Post by: tommydw2000 on June 13, 2014, 07:07:48 PM
well it makes sense why tell the world what problems your horse is having. I thought this piece of information prior to the Belmont was very good and will be something I will pay attention to if it comes up again.