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Title: DRF
Post by: BH on May 23, 2014, 11:15:10 PM
Back online.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: jerry on May 24, 2014, 08:26:43 AM
Barely.
Title: Re: DRF-finally back
Post by: toppled on May 25, 2014, 11:22:56 AM
Formulator now working.
Title: Re: DRF-finally back
Post by: johnnym on May 25, 2014, 06:37:53 PM
Me think they are back down.. Can\'t access the drf plus.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: miff on May 29, 2014, 12:09:30 PM
DRF hard copy reportedly going to $9.00 effective June 1. Whole racing world gone f-king mad,seemingly trying to get more players to quit the game by making it too expensive to play.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Old Mr. Boston on May 29, 2014, 12:43:29 PM
To say nothing about what\'s left of their \"website\". DRF is a joke.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Topcat on May 29, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
miff Wrote:
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> DRF hard copy reportedly going to $9.00 effective
> June 1. Whole racing world gone f-king
> mad,seemingly trying to get more players to quit
> the game by making it too expensive to play.


Looking to confirm . . .
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: miff on May 29, 2014, 12:56:21 PM
Local Newspaper stand heard from delivery driver.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: magicnight on May 29, 2014, 01:15:21 PM
That is an unimpeachable source in these things, Mike. Newspapers have to let the wholesalers know at least 30 days out so that billing can be altered. With a June 1 change, by now the word has certainly filtered down to the street level. Believe it!
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Silver Charm on May 29, 2014, 01:26:40 PM
The guy at the Dog Track stand, where I occasionally buy hardcopy, told me its going to $8.00 there from $7.50. Probably will be $9.00 at other retail distribution outlets.

This is driving everything to the Online Program which is a big profit maker for them. However they need a Create-a-Card Plan! Buying multiple tracks with many unplayable races is also senseless and too expensive!!
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Edgorman on May 29, 2014, 03:55:39 PM
Newsstand on 79th and First has already installed plexiglass box with lock to house DRF.  Great PR move as it makes me feel wealthy.  Almost like buying jewelry.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: miff on May 29, 2014, 04:09:02 PM
The DRF\'s, CDI\'s and NYRA\'s just keep slapping the players in the face at a time when the customer base is shrinking.

Makes no sense.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: joemama on May 29, 2014, 04:49:50 PM
Maybe they feel it\'s everyman for himself as the ship sinks.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Caradoc on May 29, 2014, 05:00:59 PM
And given the DRF\'s embarrassing, almost catastrophic failures of last week, raising prices now requires a rare type of cluelessness.

DRF now almost totally dependent on circulation revenues, as advertising dollars have all but dried up.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Bigredgoer on May 29, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
I stopped buying DRF 1 year ago, use BRIS for pp\'s and TG for everything else...DRF has \"left the building\" so to speak...Clueless and absolutely no disdain for the fan base/player out there..I feel bad for the \"old timers\" who go on the weekends get robbed from purchasing that \"rag\", and then have to search high and low for the last page of pp\'s for race 9 in NY....WTF...I heard Mr. Crist is ill, but who is, or will step up for the horseplayers...SOS, different day!
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: moosepalm on May 30, 2014, 05:28:12 AM
Overpriced hard copy product, backed by one of the world\'s most annoying websites, and puts a pay-for-view status on information that would make the sport more accessible to beginning players.  Other than that, what\'s not to like?  For tablet players, there are products out there that are superior in content, and far more engaging.  One of the few aspects of the sport that\'s actually improving.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Coronado98 on May 30, 2014, 06:27:30 AM
Not sure where to put this reply.

Back in November they discontinued the print version of the simulcast weekly.  They printed the daily track variants with the national charts section which was a nice way to make up my own numbers and such.  In the last edition they were hawking the online edition as having all the features that the print edition carried.  The online version lacks the daily track variant.

I have tried e-mailing and calling people at the drf and have never gotten a clear answer on this.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: miff on May 30, 2014, 06:35:43 AM
Owners of DRF, Arlington Capital Partners, typical blood sucking venture capital MO,suck the lemon dry and move on.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Bet Twice on May 30, 2014, 06:57:29 AM
Moose - you mention other products being better for tablet players....which are you referring to?  I use tg\'s for speed figs but typically buy drf for the additional running line detail, more out of habit than anything else.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Boscar Obarra on May 30, 2014, 08:36:45 AM
Not sure why anyone still uses the drf product at all.

 Been using brisnet for many years, and whenever I look at drf I might as well be looking at the Morning Telegraph.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: P-Dub on May 30, 2014, 10:11:23 AM
Boscar Obarra Wrote:
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> Not sure why anyone still uses the drf product at
> all.
>
>  Been using brisnet for many years, and whenever I
> look at drf I might as well be looking at the
> Morning Telegraph.


This.

DRF is pretty much obsolete for me. Any number of Products with PPs are equal or better than DRF.  Combine this with the pay per view coverage of articles, and its any wonder they get business at all.

They have done a nice job making themselves irrelevant.
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: Tavasco on May 30, 2014, 12:04:55 PM
I received a customer email from the CEO after the website outage, It was very sincere with his personal touch. I was about to cut them some slack until re-reading the email,

He blamed the infrastructure for the problem?  Then I realized he was pretentious i.e. pretending to actually know something about the business. Infrastructure a term used by know nothing do nothings. Hard to find any positives,
Title: Re: DRF
Post by: moosepalm on May 30, 2014, 02:27:19 PM
Bet Twice Wrote:
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> Moose - you mention other products being better
> for tablet players....which are you referring to?
> I use tg\'s for speed figs but typically buy drf
> for the additional running line detail, more out
> of habit than anything else.


Bet, for me, same as you, everything starts with the TG figures, which are quite adaptable to tablet use.  Beyond that, I\'m partial to TimeFormUS.  They give some pace info that I find helpful.  Others here seem quite happy with Bris.  They\'d have to tell you about tablet compatibility.