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Title: TG figs today
Post by: shanahan on May 17, 2014, 06:03:49 PM
Thought they were spot on, nice job guys.  Lots of favs, but that\'s the way it goes...still better to cash than not.  Had lots of yo g nieces and nephews at the lake here in a pik 4 pool today...they are thrilled they got a few bucks back, so maybe I\'ve turned on some new fans.
Now on to the Big Dance!
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: richiebee on May 18, 2014, 01:15:04 AM
Sure there were lots of faves, but Utley (17.00) in the Dixie was, on the basis
of his TG 12s at GP over the winter (one of which was over a
yielding turf), much faster than his competition.

Win bet, double with CC, got rid of some of the bitter taste left over from
Milam\'s tough beat on Ky Oaks day.

I wish I had the time to handicap the races every day, and the discipline to
lay in wait for horses such as Milam and Utley, who have (what I perceive as)
a clear TG edge and are offered at a fair mutuel.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: jerry on May 18, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
Knock on Utley, from my perspective, was the spacing of the 2 efforts leading up to this race. I didn\'t think he\'d run his A race.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: richiebee on May 19, 2014, 04:15:06 AM
Non Thorographically speaking, the big knocks (to me) on Utley were that he was
1/8 in the last two years and really did not have much recent graded stake form
to give one any confidence.

TG wise, he showed turf numbers -- recent numbers, a pair of 12s run
at GP this winter -- at least one point faster than the competition, including
Charming Kitten, who was hovering around 2/1.

All in the past, as my wife, who sensed I had a decent day, stuck out her hand
and reminded me that we had promised to buy my mother in law a new sewing machine
and table. My wife was not amused when I reminded her that Mom just turned 87,
that maybe renting a machine on a monthly basis might be more prudent.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: miff on May 19, 2014, 05:25:51 AM
\"Knock on Utley, from my perspective, was the spacing of the 2 efforts leading up to this race. I didn\'t think he\'d run his A race\"

Jerry(assume not TGJB in disguise)

What spacing? What would proper spacing for Utley to run his A race?

Mike
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: TGJB on May 19, 2014, 08:57:29 AM
Richie-- we tried to get that horse bought after each of his last three starts, specifically had the Dixie in mind.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: jerry on May 19, 2014, 10:27:37 AM
This horse hadn\'t run 3 races in a 30 day span in 3 years.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: heatherk on May 19, 2014, 02:09:16 PM
Richie he was 9-1 with horses going in the gate, 7-1 in the first turn. I wondered who pounded him. Now we know. I played double with CC cause I thought the $40 was good value.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: Rick B. on May 19, 2014, 03:08:37 PM
TGJB Wrote:
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> Richie-- we tried to get that horse bought after
> each of his last three starts, specifically had
> the Dixie in mind.

In spite of this, Utley got barely a mention in
the Analysis, just an include in the \"box with\".

Seems to me a horse on TG\'s radar in this fashion
should be getting a much bigger push when race
day comes.

How often does this happen, anyway?
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: TGJB on May 19, 2014, 03:16:03 PM
I also started chasing the second finisher when he ran for 25, and didn\'t use him Saturday at all.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: Rick B. on May 19, 2014, 04:28:17 PM
I\'ve seen the list of horses purchased upon
TG\'s recommendation; \"impressive\" is an
understatement.

A horse YOU recommended for purchase shows
up in the very race you had in mind for him --
that is pretty damn strong, IMO.

Analysis buyers ought to know, if you can
divulge it. Maybe you can\'t.

Just my .02
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: heatherk on May 19, 2014, 04:47:16 PM
Why not buy the sheets Rick and see the numbers to determine strength rather than fault JB. Your as much to blame for being cheap. My .02.
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: shanahan on May 19, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
richiebee Wrote:
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> Non Thorographically speaking, the big knocks (to
> me) on Utley were that he was
> 1/8 in the last two years and really did not have
> much recent graded stake form
> to give one any confidence.
>
> TG wise, he showed turf numbers -- recent numbers,
> a pair of 12s run
> at GP this winter -- at least one point faster
> than the competition, including
> Charming Kitten, who was hovering around 2/1.
>
> All in the past, as my wife, who sensed I had a
> decent day, stuck out her hand
> and reminded me that we had promised to buy my
> mother in law a new sewing machine
> and table. My wife was not amused when I reminded
> her that Mom just turned 87,
> that maybe renting a machine on a monthly basis
> might be more prudent.

Classic!
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: Rick B. on May 19, 2014, 05:11:23 PM
heatherk Wrote:
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> Why not buy the sheets Rick and see the numbers to
> determine strength rather than fault JB. Your as
> much to blame for being cheap. My .02.

Absurd retort, on many levels:

* I\'m not the expert, don\'t claim to be.

* Anyone spending money on the Analysis
ain\'t exactly \"cheap\"...

* JB defends himself and his team quite
well, and I\'m not assigning any \"blame\"...
how about we let him answer? If I\'m being
an ass, I have no problem with him saying so.

Besides, my question is valid -- tell me where
on the Sheets it says that JB is advising his
clients to buy this horse?
Title: Re: TG figs today
Post by: Tavasco on May 19, 2014, 06:46:59 PM
Hopefully Heatherk completely misunderstood your original post. Otherwise, I\'m lost in space and don\'t get his retort one bit.