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Title: Melbourne - Flemington Race Course
Post by: dlf on February 28, 2014, 09:36:48 AM
Does anyone on this board know of any TG-like product for Australian handicapping? Any other advice on handicapping or visiting the Melbourne track would be appreciated, as well. I will be there next week for Super Saturday and feel completely unprepared.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Melbourne - Flemington Race Course
Post by: drbillym on February 28, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
betptcblog.com features a thorough analysis by Andrew Keltzenberg, who really knows Aussie racing.  You may have to have an account to access.
Title: Re: Melbourne - Flemington Race Course
Post by: Tavasco on February 28, 2014, 07:49:40 PM
In case you didn\'t know, Brisnet offers traditional style PP\'s for Australian racing. Their speed rating seems meaningful. They also have an Australian racing primer, which is a good read, on their website.

I play Australia regularly and what I\'ve learned.....

Lots of handicap races and so weights are paramount. Noteworthy is that many horses are raced into condition off layoffs. I look for contenders stretching out second or third back from a vacation.

Unraced maidens @ short prices are not to be ignored. I love that Flemington sprints are run straight without a turn. Snowden, Moody & Waterhouse condition top stock.

It was hot hot hot (118 degrees) a few weeks back.

Have a great time!  Good Luck Too!
Title: Re: Melbourne - Flemington Race Course
Post by: Dick Powell on February 28, 2014, 09:28:59 PM
Two things I think you will like. The Pick Four is called a quaddie. There are usually big fields at the end of the card but you can tell the system or teller that you want it for a certain, total amount. So if you want to add horses and it goes over the total amount you want to risk, you can do the same combinations for less money. Under certain circumstances, you can say you want to bet $100 on a bunch of combinations and the system figures out the denomination of the bet. It could a 23 cent pick four but it adds up to $100. Less complicated than I am describing.
The second thing is that on a self-service machine, you can lock in the current odds on win and place wagers. Yes, there are bookmakers all over the place including inside the building and you can shop around but the tote machines are capable of giving you fixed odds based on the current price.
I like to watch the races up in the Hill Stand which is high up and on the finish line. Let us know how you liked it. If I could afford it I would go every year.
Title: Re: Melbourne - Flemington Race Course
Post by: Topcat on March 01, 2014, 04:21:04 AM
Dick Powell Wrote:
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> Two things I think you will like. The Pick Four is
> called a quaddie. There are usually big fields at
> the end of the card but you can tell the system or
> teller that you want it for a certain, total
> amount. So if you want to add horses and it goes
> over the total amount you want to risk, you can do
> the same combinations for less money. Under
> certain circumstances, you can say you want to bet
> $100 on a bunch of combinations and the system
> figures out the denomination of the bet. It could
> a 23 cent pick four but it adds up to $100. Less
> complicated than I am describing.
> The second thing is that on a self-service
> machine, you can lock in the current odds on win
> and place wagers. Yes, there are bookmakers all
> over the place including inside the building and
> you can shop around but the tote machines are
> capable of giving you fixed odds based on the
> current price.
> I like to watch the races up in the Hill Stand
> which is high up and on the finish line. Let us
> know how you liked it. If I could afford it I
> would go every year.


Re second graph . . .

Oh, devoutly to be wished . . .
Title: Re: Melbourne - Flemington Race Course
Post by: miff on March 01, 2014, 05:52:10 AM
My favorite thing was \"shopping\" around for the best odds with the bookmakers vs the tote board.Aussie books sharp dudes!