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Title: Had to check the byline...
Post by: TGJB on December 12, 2013, 12:40:20 PM
...to make sure Bob Barry hadn\'t snuck back in the writing game.


http://www.laweekly.com/2013-12-12/news/hollywood-park-horse-racing/
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: magicnight on December 12, 2013, 02:10:35 PM
Ha!

It has a nice zippy style. Had to print it out so I can read it at home. Of course it\'s from an alt-weekly, not the LAT.

To steal from another one of the greats, I can resist everything but temptation ...
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: TGJB on December 12, 2013, 02:19:04 PM
As you will see, they would have had to edit out some expletives to run it in the LA Times.

But it definitely is similar in tone to your piece on Real Quiet.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: moosepalm on December 12, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
TGJB Wrote:
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> ...to make sure Bob Barry hadn\'t snuck back in the
> writing game.
>


I can\'t imagine the Bob Barry I know comparing Hollywood Park to Fenway.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: magicnight on December 13, 2013, 12:39:18 AM
I\'ve never been to Hollywood Park, so I have no first hand basis for comparison there. A Sixers game at the Forum in the late eighties was the closest I ever got. But I\'ve been to a few racetracks, and more than a few ballparks. Although it\'s been a while, I\'ve been to quite a few games at Fenway Park. When I cared about who won I was a Yankee fan, but this is one thing I know for sure: I knew Fenway Park; I loved Fenway Park; Hollywood Park ... you are no Fenway Park.

I\'m sorry to see it go. I always thought I\'d get there some day. Guess not. But I\'m a New Yorker. This town has buried more gorgeous racetracks than any decent-sized burg could ever hope to have over a century or two. Jerome Park. Morris Park. Was Sheepshead Bay the nice one in Brooklyn? Del Mar and SA provide some consolation, I suppose. Is it very hard to sneak into Hialeah? (#2 on my bucket list, now with a bullet).

Sorry for all of those backstretch workers who will have to move, and the horses too, of course. Do they really have to dig up Native Diver? I hope that never happens to Wanda or Ruffian. And Paul Moran, assuming his last wish came true. Lord help us all.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: TGJB on December 13, 2013, 09:27:52 AM
What are you, 150 years old? You haven\'t been to Hollywood (and now never will) so you can\'t speak first hand, but you have an opinion on Morris Park???
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: FrankD. on December 13, 2013, 09:37:27 AM
Jerry stop exaggerating; Morris Park only closed in 1904 after a glorious 15 year run opening in 1889.

Highlights:
Miff cut his teeth there on pre historic pace figs and Spillane\'s 1st back stretch job walking hots!

That puts Bob not a day over 122.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: miff on December 13, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
Frank D,

Not so pre-historic speed/performance figs were far more reflective of racetrack performance than they are today and did not cost $35.00

As an aside,Aqu inner track raw times enhancing your experience? Chris Kay asked me to inquire.

Mike
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: FrankD. on December 13, 2013, 10:07:49 AM
Mike,

Please give C.(clueless) Kay my regards the only Inner Track enhancement I\'m experiencing is a few stabs at the pick 5. I can\'t resist a .50 multi race bet with only 15% take out. It\'s a better deal than the after Christmas sales!!! Aside from that Finger Lakes East is all yours until April, I\'m all about palm trees until then.

Good Luck,

Frank D.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: magicnight on December 13, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Did you see the time stamp on that thing? I should have been pulled over and ticketed for PWI.

I\'ve read about those places and seen some pictures, but I wouldn\'t say I have a strong opinion about Morris Park. I\'m a sentimental guy living in an unsentimental town that tends to pave over its glorious past. I still can\'t believe they knocked down Yankee Stadium. I don\'t have a clue where Hollywood belongs relative to other American racetracks, but I know it ain\'t at the top of the heap. It ain\'t racing\'s Fenway Park. That\'s my strong opinion.
Title: Tom Noonan Speaks
Post by: miff on December 13, 2013, 11:27:44 AM
Tom Noonan:

NYRA Board facing challenges

The NYRA Reorganization Board started to deal with some of the significant challenges facing it at its Board meeting on December 4.  Almost all the coverage of the meeting focused on the proposal to increase admission charges to Belmont and Saratoga.  General admission would go from $3 to $5 and the clubhouse would be bumped from $5 to $8.  Charges for parking would also go up.  No change was proposed for Aqueduct where admission is free.

While the increases affecting patrons understandably drew the most comment, the overall fiscal situation of NYRA is one that can hardly be described as rosy.  At the August Board meeting, the continuing use of revenues from the Aqueduct Video Lottery Terminals was the financial issue attracting the most attention.  It was clear from Governor Andrew Cuomo's top appointees to the Board  -  Chairman David Skorton, President of Cornell, and Robert Megna, also Cuomo's Budget Director  -   that NYRA had to start operating as if the VLT revenues were no longer available.  It is a significant issue.  Without the VLT revenues, NYRA's racing operation realizes a loss;  with the revenues, NYRA sees a profit.  Incidentally, the loss of VLT revenues is only an immediate concern if you are the Governor  -  and we do not know what his thinking is on this matter, as with so many other issues affecting the state.  The revenues are guaranteed to NYRA by statute.

The main purpose of last week's Board meeting was to approve the NYRA budget for 2014.  The proposal put forth by NYRA management would have the racing operation realize a $250,000 profit without factoring in the VLT revenues.  That would be accomplished by cuts in spending and increases in revenue.  The VLT revenues were not going away, however.  The estimated $23.7 million for operating expenses from the VLT's was to address retiree obligations of $12.5 million and an unanticipated obligation to the Internal Revenue Service of $13 million.  Suddenly, the $250,000 surplus becomes a deficit of $1.5 million.

If we set aside for the moment the receipt and use of the VLT revenues, NYRA is proposing to turn a 2013 deficit in the racing operation of $10.5 million to that $250,000 surplus, from cutting costs by $3.9 million and increasing revenue by $6.9 million.  The cost cutting is achieved primarily through a one-time payment of $3 million to the OTB network in 2013.  The other big-ticket cuts are $400,000 in utility savings by closing the Aqueduct training track when there is not racing at the track, and $576,000 in outside legal fees.  On the revenue side, fully one-third of the budgeted increase results from on-site track customers in the form of increased admissions, parking, programs and the food and beverage concessions.   The increased costs to patrons are one of the only revenue increases over which NYRA has complete control.  While the budget contemplates increased simulcasting fees of $1.6 million and additional sponsorship payments of $1.3 million, these are aspirational projections contingent upon successful negotiations.

The Board debate on increasing customer charges is one of the few issues on which this Board has seen a spirited debate in its year of existence.  (I can only think of two other cases in which there was significant dissent.)  It is clear NYRA needs additional revenue, even if you assume the VLT revenues are here to stay.  What is less clear, however, is whether increasing admission and parking charges  -  estimated to be worth about $2 million  -  would be offset by a decline in attendance (and handle), resulting in either no net benefit or a financial loss.

I have had a mixed feeling about admission prices at race tracks ever since I started going.  On the one hand, I did not understand why tracks did not let people in for free.  While there may be folks who go to a track and don't spend a penny, most are going to wager at least something.  I don't think I have ever brought anyone to the track for the first time who did not bet on every race.  On the other hand, it is one of the cheapest entertainment expenses imaginable.  For $3 (or $5), you get to go to a beautiful facility, watch magnificent animals up close, engage in the excitement, and wager.  Kids get in for free.  That's why I do not think the small increase in prices will deter many, if any, people.  (I do not know what the parking increases will be.  That is something, I think, that could irritate enough people to cause folks to go elsewhere.)

That's not to say, however, that NYRA was particularly brilliant in how it handled this issue.  It is the kind of matter that is going to bring out the naysayers always on guard for any affront  -  just read some of the comments in the on-line media.  (I think I have seen a single comment defending the decision.)  While the 2014 budget had to be approved this  month, it did not mean that the price increase could not have been floated in advance.  NYRA may think it has a deep well of goodwill, but they have done little as the "new NYRA" (which is how they have started to refer to themselves), and what they have done is invisible to much of the public.

Then there are components of the budget that raise eyebrows. CEO Chris Kay is hiring additional executive-level staff, including something called a "Chief Experience Officer."  That would be in addition to the existing Chief Marketing Officer and a Vice President for Hospitality and Guest Services.  There is also $800,000 set aside for a "long term planning consultant."  This is a Board that was appointed 14 months ago, named a "long-term planning committee" 10 months ago, and is down to its last 16 months before it must produce a recommendation for turning the "new NYRA" back to an "improved new NYRA" that will eliminate state government control.  After apparently doing no long-term planning, they are down to paying top dollar for someone to tell them what to do.  Then there is an item notable for its omission from the budget document.  Prior CEO Ellen McClain proposed an effort to bring betting terminals into restaurants in New York City.  Not only would this be a major benefit for racing fans in the largest United States market, but would greatly enhance revenues to NYRA.  It's hard to believe that you can go to Manhattan and not be able to place a legal bet, but nothing has apparently been done on this proposal since McClain left.

In his remarks supporting the increased charges on customers (or, as he likes to call them, "guests"), Kay acknowledged the importance of bringing "significant value" to justify the increased costs.  In a speech this week, he referred to the "countless e-mails and letters telling us the wonderful things we've done,"  according to Tom LaMarra in BloodHorse.com.  Kay was not more specific, although I must say I did have several NYRA employees greet me in a friendly manner this year at Saratoga.  The one specific I have heard from Kay is that increased satisfaction from patrons should not be measured by the decline this year in Saratoga's attendance, but rather in the fact that those who did come spent more money on concessions and souvenirs.  He attributed this to his increased focus on the "guest experience," which would make him somewhat of a miracle worker since he started in the job just before the Spa opened.  For 2014, the only "significant value" he has identified is High Definition TV's.  At this point, I think most people would take that as a given, rather than something warranting increased prices.

When NYRA Board Chairman David Skorton pushed for the authorization to increase prices on its customers, he repeatedly referred to the Board's "fiduciary" duty.  The Board undeniably has that responsibility, but it doesn't end with jacking up prices.  It means you also question the wisdom of $800,000 to do the long-term planning many people think was a primary duty of this Board, or the necessity of a "Chief Experience Officer," when, again, many think that's why this Board was appointed.  Or it means you do something about placing betting terminals in New York City's restaurants, a revenue enhancer that would lessen the pressure to increase costs for the customers who go to the track.  Finally, exercising one's fiduciary responsibilities means you push back on a Governor who is hell-bent on eliminating the VLT revenues  -  monies realized not from the state's coffers but from the profits of a casino operator  -  if that is necessary to ensure a viable racing and breeding operation in New York State.

As I said earlier, I have mixed feelings about increasing admission prices.  I would feel a lot better about it if I thought the Cuomo Administration and his top appointees were showing any interest in actually making it better for the racing and breeding businesses in the state.
Title: Re: Tom Noonan Speaks
Post by: moosepalm on December 13, 2013, 12:29:59 PM
OK, I\'ll candidly admit my naiveté about matters pertaining to running a business which generates eight figure I.O.U.\'s, but I still struggle with the concept of $13 million \"unanticipated obligation to the Internal Revenue Service.\"  It just seems that somebody should have seen that sneaking up on them.

I also had to do some research on a \"chief experience officer.\"  Evidently this is the person charged with the responsibility of ensuring positive interaction with an organization\'s external customers.  Sounds like a merger of customer relations with the complaint department.  I might suggest a cost cutting measure and eliminate this position in favor of having all other employees with the words \"chief\" in their title spend a couple of days each month acting out the role of \"external customer,\" and spend some time talking to other \"external customers.\"  For example, next August a group of them could come to a Thorograph seminar at the Spa, and sit down next to Frank D. and Richiebee for most of the afternoon.

Finally, I would suggest that a significant cost cutting measure could be undertaken by hiring me as a \"short term planning consultant\" for $50K.  My first, and only act would be to get rid of the \"long term planning consultant\" and have the board add individuals with such expertise to their motley crew, so that they can do what other boards are generally charged to do.  Voila!  We\'ve just saved another $750K.  Feeling magnanimous, I would even recommend that $50K be allocated to a retreat for long range planning purposes, with the caveat that if they don\'t get it done in a specified time frame, they will have their asses unceremoniously kicked to the curb, Monday morning.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: SoCalMan2 on December 13, 2013, 01:29:22 PM
magicnight Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I\'ve never been to Hollywood Park, so I have no
> first hand basis for comparison there. A Sixers
> game at the Forum in the late eighties was the
> closest I ever got. But I\'ve been to a few
> racetracks, and more than a few ballparks.
> Although it\'s been a while, I\'ve been to quite a
> few games at Fenway Park. When I cared about who
> won I was a Yankee fan, but this is one thing I
> know for sure: I knew Fenway Park; I loved Fenway
> Park; Hollywood Park ... you are no Fenway Park.
>
> I\'m sorry to see it go. I always thought I\'d get
> there some day. Guess not. But I\'m a New Yorker.
> This town has buried more gorgeous racetracks than
> any decent-sized burg could ever hope to have over
> a century or two. Jerome Park. Morris Park. Was
> Sheepshead Bay the nice one in Brooklyn? Del Mar
> and SA provide some consolation, I suppose. Is it
> very hard to sneak into Hialeah? (#2 on my bucket
> list, now with a bullet).
>
> Sorry for all of those backstretch workers who
> will have to move, and the horses too, of course.
> Do they really have to dig up Native Diver? I hope
> that never happens to Wanda or Ruffian. And Paul
> Moran, assuming his last wish came true. Lord help
> us all.


I thought Hialeah was running quarter horse meets nowadays.  Have no idea what the current condition of the physical plant is, but any racing fan who hasnt been there and is in Miami while it is open should definitely stop by.  Hialeah is one of the most magnificient race places I have ever seen (and I believe I have been to many of the best). I would love it if they could reopen Hialeah to Thoroughbreds for something like a one week meet every year...That would be amazing and well worth making the travel to be there for it.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: TGJB on December 13, 2013, 02:02:57 PM
Completely agree.
Title: Re: Tom Noonan Speaks
Post by: FrankD. on December 15, 2013, 04:12:18 AM
Roger,

I assure you that Senor Bee & yours truly would totally enhance their guest experience!!!

Maybe we could get a line item in the NYRA budget for brew pub vouchers for all seminar T-generates?

Frank D.
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: TGJB on December 21, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
...and this time it WAS.

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/unlocking-winners-handicapping/archive/2013/12/19/timeformus-weekend-plays-the-hollywood-park-swan-song.aspx
Title: Re: Had to check the byline...
Post by: magicnight on December 21, 2013, 06:26:03 PM
Thanks, JB. That byline has been like Bill Haley\'s comet, except showing up every fifteen years or so. We may try to get it to settle into a nice long slow burnout from here on in.