During the paddock review Maggie said something was off with Cross Traffic..
Surprising and odd in many ways. Maragh must thought it was a 1+1/2 race?
Yep, she saw something. That, and the horse stumbled rather badly out of the gate (correlation?), jock just wrapped up after that.
Tavasco Wrote:
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> Surprising and odd in many ways. Maragh must
> thought it was a 1+1/2 race?
Maggie reports something not right, and the horse stumbles out of the gate.
So lets blame the jockey.
Brilliant.
No stumble for LG (Maragh), just a furious finish, too late!
who else do u blame p-dumb?
So, What should we label Martn Garcia\'s trip on Paynter? That ones worth a second look. He didn\'t get stopped and 2nd is not all bad.
cubfan0316 Wrote:
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> who else do u blame p-dumb?
Why does there have to be blame?? Thats the difference between you and I, at least one of many differences.
I\'m not a loser, so I don\'t look for excuses like you. I\'m sure getting your head handed to you anytime you play a race gets old. Surely it can\'t be your fault that you are a loser. So lets blame someone else.
Its the jockey\'s fault, the trainer did a poor job, blah blah blah.
You lack the intelligence to grasp the fact that these animals are flesh and blood, have good days and bad.
Your moronic views of rampant drug use, another excuse of the simple minded, further cloud the empty space in your skull.
You are the classic losing player. I see it every day in the card room. Lousy player loses, so lets blame the dealer. Blame the shuffle master. Blame everyone and everything but the true culprit for your losing ways. The little fellow in the mirror.
So the answer to your question Scrubfan is there is no blame. Stuff happens.
Like your existence.
She also thought Org looked fantastic
Let\'s see perfectly logical to you that Cross Traffic opens at 5-1 and the 3yo Palace Malice opens at 2-1. According to experts on this board, Cross Traffic was a future star. To me a lot like Verrazano. Big figures in Fla out of nowhere. Today there was scrutiny, out of competition testing and Pletcher failed miserably again. Don\'t care how many stakes he wins, not the same result when he is being watched. I.E. Breeders Cup. Just don\'t believe in coincidence!
The board told it all. Just like Verrazano at 9-1 in Derby. Educated players know what the media and racing authorities won\'t report. Entire game is not about training but about what magic the vet can do. Cibelli\'s letter was pathetic! How did she go from a 30% trainer winning titles every meet to a measly 8% who can\'t even win on her home track Mth where everybody is cheating. BTW no sour grapes! I am a winning player who has learned to bet less and less.
This string got crazy..I was just trying to say that Maggie noticed something was wrong and it was. It reminded me of Life at ten where Johnny thought something was off in the warm up, they open the gate and nothing. Both trained by Pletch so who knows if it\'s a coincidence or not.
As far as odds, A lot of people threw out Cross Traffic due to the distance so 5/1 made a lot of sense. I personally did not have him even fourth on my tix and that was before Maggie\'s analysis.
As far as Jock, Maragh had nothing to do with that performance.
Someone mentioned that she also said Orb looked good. Every horse in a big race usually looks good but when she says something negative I usually pay attention and use that.
Lost Cause Wrote:
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> During the paddock review Maggie said something
> was off with Cross Traffic..
I didn\'t quite say that, but did note going in that I feared for his intermediate-term prospects, given how hard he\'s hit the ground, during his races . . .
for what it\'s worth now, i was in the paddock right in front of Orb, teaching my godson about horse\'s body language, warming a horse up, his first time at the track....Orb kicked the stall 4 times hard while being saddled, you could hear it everywhere down there....shug and company looked very concerned...once in the walk ring he did look great....by the time i got upstairs to watch the warmup he was sweating profusely.....ps... iwent with last gunfighter...
Wouldn\'t surprise me about Orb. I think he has acted up before in his FL races. Good to know though for next time. Thank You..
Natural for Orb to be wet,happens often,has won that way.
CHOWDERMAN Wrote:
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> for what it\'s worth now, i was in the paddock
> right in front of Orb, teaching my godson about
> horse\'s body language, warming a horse up, his
> first time at the track....Orb kicked the stall 4
> times hard while being saddled, you could hear it
> everywhere down there....shug and company looked
> very concerned...once in the walk ring he did look
> great....by the time i got upstairs to watch the
> warmup he was sweating profusely.....ps... iwent
> with last gunfighter...
It\'s as evident as ever he needs each and every thing to go right, for him to win . . .
If I remember correctly Maggie also said that both of Mott\'s horses looked fantastic! For some reason that is what is sticking in my head.... Ron the Greek!
Looks a factor, but RTG looked to need a head start to win yesterday.Last made that big run many races back and was totally flat lined going in,
I totally agree with you!
miff Wrote:
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> Looks a factor, but RTG looked to need a head
> start to win yesterday.Last made that big run many
> races back and was totally flat lined going in,
Had loads of things closing with Palice Malice
When I saw RTG close to the pace, knowing he has a devastating late kick I said uh-oh...Definitely did not look like the same horse yesterday pacewise.
Strong rail reappeared again yesterday at Belmont. Perhaps somewhat aided RTG, still tough to figure he would have his big run off those lines/figs.
> It\'s as evident as ever he needs each and every
> thing to go right, for him to win . . .
Like a lot of horseplayers.
As for the rail, I thought it was good, but not nearly what it was earlier in the week. rtg was more than just a rail trip.
Mako.
Miserably is a harsh word. Almost speculatory. My guess is you don\'t like him.
Well speculation aside, I gamble. If anyone were to offer 8-1 on Palace Malice
to win the BC classic I\'d have the bet down yesterday. Furthermore, this is for
the forum, The wager includes everyone over the weight of 170, but it WILL be at
my sole discretion and( Don\'t be surprised Jerry) i may ask for odds.
mjs