Title: Clueless Clowns Public Relations Move
Post by: miff on August 19, 2013, 09:59:34 AM
Post by: miff on August 19, 2013, 09:59:34 AM
The NY Clueless Clowns want to assure the players that the Travers will be run clean, the other 2400+ races run this year, you\'re on your own!
NEW YORK STATE GAMING COMMISSION AND NYRA ISSUE ENHANCED SECURITY PROTOCOLS FOR HORSES PARTICIPATING IN THE AUGUST 24 TRAVERS STAKES
SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. -- The New York State Gaming Commission and The New York Racing Association, Inc. (NYRA) today announced enhanced security measures for horses competing in the August 24 Travers Stakes.
Horses competing in the $1 million purse race will be subject to early out-of-competition blood testing for banned substances and will be required to be on Saratoga Race Course grounds by August 21. In addition, horses will be subject to 24 hour monitoring at their trainers' own barns and stalls on the grounds. The Gaming Commission is also requiring the submission of veterinary records for participating horses for three days leading up to the race, which will be published on the Commission's Web site starting August 21.
"These measures demonstrate New York's commitment to the health and safety of the horses and riders," said Robert Williams, Acting Executive Director of the New York State Gaming Commission. "The security protocols we have implemented here are sensible steps that underscore that New York horse racing operates with the highest integrity."
"These steps will help ensure that Saratoga Race Course's most renowned race is conducted in the safest and fairest manner possible," said Chris Kay, CEO and President of The New York Racing Association, Inc. "We thank the New York State Gaming Commission for its assistance in establishing these important protocols on behalf of our horsemen and fans."
The Gaming Commission has mandated the following protocols and steps for the horses participating in the August 24 Travers Stakes:
The Gaming Commission will take out-of-competition blood samples of horses competing in the Travers Stakes on August 21 and send them to the New York State's Equine Drug Testing Program at SUNY Morrisville for immediate testing. Preliminary results of the testing are expected to be complete prior to the Travers Stakes.
Horses participating in the Travers Stakes must be on the Saratoga Race Course grounds by noon on Wednesday, August 21. Any exceptions will be at the discretion of the Stewards.
Horses will stay in their trainers' current barns and stalls at Saratoga Race Course, which will be monitored at all times by additional security personnel.
Security personnel will monitor all treatments performed by veterinarians and examine all paraphernalia. All containers for medications administered will be retained by the Commission for possible testing.
A full daily veterinarian's record of all medications and treatments given to horses from noon August 21 until the race is run will be provided to the Commission. Any changes to treatment must be disclosed to the Commission. If medications and treatment records are not provided to the Commission in a timely manner and prior to treatment, veterinarians will not be permitted to treat the horse until the issue is resolved. The Commission will post these records on its Web site each day leading up to the race.
Entry-exit logs will be maintained by additional security from NYRA and the Commission. All persons – including veterinarians, trainers, assistant trainers, farriers, owners or other connections – on entering the stall, or engaging in contact with the horse or performing any service for the horse must have a valid Commission license on their person. Such persons will be logged in by security personnel with the reason for their visit. Routine stall and horse maintenance by identified grooms and staff will be monitored but will be exempt from logging in.
All equipment, feed, hay bales, etc. are subject to administrative searches and checks.
As is current policy, Lasix administration will take place in the horses' own stalls by a NYRA veterinarian. Syringes will be preserved by the Commission for possible testing.
On August 24, no veterinarians will treat horses without first making an appointment with Commission investigators.
The Commission, in conjunction with NYRA, will appoint a single, 24-hour point person each day for trainers and connections to contact in case of an emergency.
On August 24, no treatment will be permitted unless it is for an emergency or as approved by the Stewards.
On August 24, horses participating in the Travers Stakes will be required to be in the Assembly barn between 45 minutes to 1 hour before post time for TC02 testing. They will then be escorted with security to the paddock.
Travers Stakes participants will receive priority for paddock schooling with security present.
The Commission and NYRA will provide educational materials on the protocols to horsepersons, connections, veterinarians, security and all appropriate parties prior to and on Wednesday, August 21 at Saratoga Race Course.
About the New York Racing Association, Inc.
Created more than 50 years ago so that New York State could share in the boom in racing that followed World War II, The New York Racing Association, Inc., holds the exclusive right to conduct racing at Aqueduct, Belmont Park, and Saratoga until 2033. NYRA tracks are the cornerstone of the state's Thoroughbred business, which contributes more than $2 billion annually to New York State's urban, suburban and rural economy. NYRA's Mission is "Meeting the highest standards in Thoroughbred racing and equine safety."
NEW YORK STATE GAMING COMMISSION AND NYRA ISSUE ENHANCED SECURITY PROTOCOLS FOR HORSES PARTICIPATING IN THE AUGUST 24 TRAVERS STAKES
SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. -- The New York State Gaming Commission and The New York Racing Association, Inc. (NYRA) today announced enhanced security measures for horses competing in the August 24 Travers Stakes.
Horses competing in the $1 million purse race will be subject to early out-of-competition blood testing for banned substances and will be required to be on Saratoga Race Course grounds by August 21. In addition, horses will be subject to 24 hour monitoring at their trainers' own barns and stalls on the grounds. The Gaming Commission is also requiring the submission of veterinary records for participating horses for three days leading up to the race, which will be published on the Commission's Web site starting August 21.
"These measures demonstrate New York's commitment to the health and safety of the horses and riders," said Robert Williams, Acting Executive Director of the New York State Gaming Commission. "The security protocols we have implemented here are sensible steps that underscore that New York horse racing operates with the highest integrity."
"These steps will help ensure that Saratoga Race Course's most renowned race is conducted in the safest and fairest manner possible," said Chris Kay, CEO and President of The New York Racing Association, Inc. "We thank the New York State Gaming Commission for its assistance in establishing these important protocols on behalf of our horsemen and fans."
The Gaming Commission has mandated the following protocols and steps for the horses participating in the August 24 Travers Stakes:
The Gaming Commission will take out-of-competition blood samples of horses competing in the Travers Stakes on August 21 and send them to the New York State's Equine Drug Testing Program at SUNY Morrisville for immediate testing. Preliminary results of the testing are expected to be complete prior to the Travers Stakes.
Horses participating in the Travers Stakes must be on the Saratoga Race Course grounds by noon on Wednesday, August 21. Any exceptions will be at the discretion of the Stewards.
Horses will stay in their trainers' current barns and stalls at Saratoga Race Course, which will be monitored at all times by additional security personnel.
Security personnel will monitor all treatments performed by veterinarians and examine all paraphernalia. All containers for medications administered will be retained by the Commission for possible testing.
A full daily veterinarian's record of all medications and treatments given to horses from noon August 21 until the race is run will be provided to the Commission. Any changes to treatment must be disclosed to the Commission. If medications and treatment records are not provided to the Commission in a timely manner and prior to treatment, veterinarians will not be permitted to treat the horse until the issue is resolved. The Commission will post these records on its Web site each day leading up to the race.
Entry-exit logs will be maintained by additional security from NYRA and the Commission. All persons – including veterinarians, trainers, assistant trainers, farriers, owners or other connections – on entering the stall, or engaging in contact with the horse or performing any service for the horse must have a valid Commission license on their person. Such persons will be logged in by security personnel with the reason for their visit. Routine stall and horse maintenance by identified grooms and staff will be monitored but will be exempt from logging in.
All equipment, feed, hay bales, etc. are subject to administrative searches and checks.
As is current policy, Lasix administration will take place in the horses' own stalls by a NYRA veterinarian. Syringes will be preserved by the Commission for possible testing.
On August 24, no veterinarians will treat horses without first making an appointment with Commission investigators.
The Commission, in conjunction with NYRA, will appoint a single, 24-hour point person each day for trainers and connections to contact in case of an emergency.
On August 24, no treatment will be permitted unless it is for an emergency or as approved by the Stewards.
On August 24, horses participating in the Travers Stakes will be required to be in the Assembly barn between 45 minutes to 1 hour before post time for TC02 testing. They will then be escorted with security to the paddock.
Travers Stakes participants will receive priority for paddock schooling with security present.
The Commission and NYRA will provide educational materials on the protocols to horsepersons, connections, veterinarians, security and all appropriate parties prior to and on Wednesday, August 21 at Saratoga Race Course.
About the New York Racing Association, Inc.
Created more than 50 years ago so that New York State could share in the boom in racing that followed World War II, The New York Racing Association, Inc., holds the exclusive right to conduct racing at Aqueduct, Belmont Park, and Saratoga until 2033. NYRA tracks are the cornerstone of the state's Thoroughbred business, which contributes more than $2 billion annually to New York State's urban, suburban and rural economy. NYRA's Mission is "Meeting the highest standards in Thoroughbred racing and equine safety."
Title: Re: Clueless Clowns Public Relations Move
Post by: richiebee on August 19, 2013, 10:31:20 AM
Post by: richiebee on August 19, 2013, 10:31:20 AM
So if one of TAP\'s runners wins, that means its true that all TAP runners are running on hay oats and water all day long?
Title: Re: Clueless Clowns Public Relations Move
Post by: richiebee on August 19, 2013, 10:42:17 AM
Post by: richiebee on August 19, 2013, 10:42:17 AM
JB:
Frank D noted that you mentioned only one DJacobson
runner posted new top at the Spa.(DJ has strike rate near
20%, respectable considering more than 1/2 of Spa
meet is run on lawn, and DJ has never been a turf trainer.)
Any way you would be able to share a \"last 30 day\" profile
of TAP\'s Spa runners?
Frank D noted that you mentioned only one DJacobson
runner posted new top at the Spa.(DJ has strike rate near
20%, respectable considering more than 1/2 of Spa
meet is run on lawn, and DJ has never been a turf trainer.)
Any way you would be able to share a \"last 30 day\" profile
of TAP\'s Spa runners?
Title: Re: Clueless Clowns Public Relations Move
Post by: TGJB on August 19, 2013, 11:04:39 AM
Post by: TGJB on August 19, 2013, 11:04:39 AM
My Jacobson comment was off the cuff, but clearly his horses as a group haven\'t been running like at Belmont. A few have now run tops, which is what you would expect without anything going on.
I don\'t see any difference between how Pletcher\'s horses are running and how they usually do at Saratoga. Which is to say they\'re running fast.
The question is will horses run back to their Mth figures. His or others.
I don\'t see any difference between how Pletcher\'s horses are running and how they usually do at Saratoga. Which is to say they\'re running fast.
The question is will horses run back to their Mth figures. His or others.
Title: Re: Clueless Clowns Public Relations Move
Post by: miff on August 24, 2013, 07:02:34 AM
Post by: miff on August 24, 2013, 07:02:34 AM
Albany/NYRA/OTBS looking to screw players by forcing them to play in NY state.Rebates surely to be affected with ADW\'s, not sure about whales in the Dakotas elsewhere. Not a dollar earmarked for players, just more money to support NY garbage winter racing and the usual.
DRF:
SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. – A law set to go into effect Jan. 1 in New York will require out-of-state account-wagering operators to pay a 5-cent fee for every dollar wagered through their operations by a New York resident, with the brunt of those fees going to their New York competitors.
The law, which was contained in a bill passed earlier this year dealing with casinos in the state, will explicitly allow out-of-state account-wagering operators to take bets from New York residents for the first time. State law had previously been unclear on whether out-of-state operators could legally take bets from New York customers. Still, most large account-wagering providers began taking bets from New Yorkers within the past five years, if not earlier.
The law calls the 5 percent fee a "market-origin fee," and it will be applied to any wager made by a New York customer, regardless of whether the customer is betting on a race at a New York track or an out-of-state track.
Account-wagering companies typically retain 10 to 20 cents per dollar wagered.
The most prominent account-wagering operators that will be affected by the fees are twinspires.com, TVG, and XpressBet, the three largest such operations in the United States. The money raised by the fee will be required to be deposited in an account maintained by the state, with distributions determined by a set of statutory formulas.
Courtney Norris, a spokeswoman for Churchill Downs Inc., which owns twinspires.com, said the company would not comment on the legislation or the fees. Officials for TVG and XpressBet did not return phone calls Friday.
Lee Park, a spokesman for the New York State Gaming Commission, which regulates racing in the state, said that the commission provided "technical assistance" on the bill because of a report it prepared in 2012 analyzing account wagering in New York. Park said the language in the bill was agreed to "by all OTBs, harness tracks, and Thoroughbred tracks."
Under the law, 40 percent of the money provided by the fee will be distributed to the state's five offtrack betting companies. Another 50 percent will go to the state's racetracks, including the New York Racing Association, Finger Lakes, and the seven harness tracks operating in New York. The state will retain the remainder.
NYRA and Finger Lakes will receive 60 percent of the share that goes to racetracks, with the state's harness tracks receiving 40 percent. It is unclear how that ratio was determined. According to the New York gaming commission report, account-wagering handle in 2011 on New York Thoroughbred races was $193 million, compared to $18 million on harness races, a more than 10-to-1 difference.
NYRA will retain "5/6ths" of the amount going to NYRA and Finger Lakes, according to the law. Forty percent of NYRA's share will go toward purses, 20 percent will go toward breeders' awards, and the remainder will be retained by NYRA.
All told then, NYRA – which operates the three largest Thoroughbred tracks in New York – will receive 10 percent of the money distributed from the fund.
NYRA officials declined to comment on the legislation this week.
NYRA and the state's five offtrack betting companies all operate their own account-wagering operations. The levy of the 5 percent fee will likely put the out-of-state operators at a competitive disadvantage compared to their in-state competitors by squeezing their profit margins on New York bets.
Post
11 Comments
RSS|Subscribe
long_shot_alert34 minutes ago
You know what gets me, where was the reporting on this? DRF?
Reply
0
long_shot_alert37 minutes ago
Throw Chris Kay your nickels if you see him at Saratoga.
Reply
0
Sal Carcia1 hour ago
This bill will only discourage betting in NY. Many of the ADW players will not make the switch and will bet less if the surcharge is passed on to them. Also, this will discourage TVG and HRTV from promoting NY racing. NY racing will be given less priority during their broadcasts. It will also discourage the ADWs from running marketing promos on NY tracks. This move is shortsighted. But what can one expect from politicians combined with and an industry with short-term thinking.
Reply
0
Larry Rhinehart10 hours ago
Every new idea state officials and horsemen dream up is bad for business. Would be nice if they could come up with changes that would increase attendance and handle.. Sadly , the business model of those in charge does just the opposite.
Reply
+2
Ryan Cale13 hours ago
i don\'t think it is an additional tax on your bets. i think it is supposed to come from the account wagering sites takeout that they normally would keep as profit. so instead of keeping 12-20% of every bet as their fee, they will have to give 5% to NY. It is basically like reducing the account wagering sites takeout (sort of like a rebate but the money goes to NY instead of the bettor). i can\'t imagine that the account wagering sites will try to pass the 5% on to their clients....but this is horse racing, where the bettors that support the entire industry are treated like walleyed bastard step-children.
Reply
+2
Marty Brink14 hours ago
I believe New York tracks already have the highest purses in the nation. Can\'t be happy with the millions they\'re already raking in, they have to gouge the little bettor for a nickle on the dollar. Works for the Airlines and the Banks, and they\'re making billions, they\'re thinking,we might as well gouge the customers too.I agree with Patricia Doyle.
Reply
+1
Patricia Doyle14 hours ago
Frankly, if the nickle fee was going to help the horses, i.e.a retirement account that would be used to upkeep retired horses I would not mind. But NY State? Hell no.
NYRA and state officials are probably going to get raises now. I think it stinks.
They should have retirement accounts for aging horses.
I like what Suffolk downs does and how they are helping to place retiring horses.
Maybe I will start to gamble up there.
I like the mid Atlantic circuit anyway. I like Delaware, Parx and in the Winter I like Charles Town.
When NY state is done taking bettors money the feds then are figuring out how to income tax the rest of it.
I play the horses for a living. This augments my SS check. I am seriously thinking about going back to work as a groom. Golden years, ha. Cant even bet the horses in NY without NY digging into our pockets. It stinks.
Reply
+2
Randy Atkins15 hours ago
everyone should quit betting N.Y. tracks...they usually have 20-30 scratches a day and you have to re-handicap races which takes forever....they are doing everything they can to get people to quit betting
Reply
0
Lawrence Vaccarelli15 hours ago
time to switch to nyra I guess
Reply
0
Michael Infurna15 hours ago
Another tax to screw the horse player!!
Reply
1 reply
+2
![](\"http://view.atdmt.com/NYC/view/451923877/direct;wi.300;hi.250/01/352499901\"/)
![](\"http://view.atdmt.com/NYC/view/451923877/direct;wi.300;hi.250/01/352499901\")
Best Bets
Dave Litfin
August 24, 2013
Saratoga
Race #3
Bobby\'s Kitten
Get PPs
Bet Now
BOBBY\'S KITTEN was hard held early, finished well in traffic and galloped out strongly past the wire when bet to favoritism for debut; homebred from world\'s hottest owner/breeder can turn the tables on STROLL TO VICTORY. The latter finished gamely to miss in head bob first out while fairly well supported; obvious threat. LULU LE\' MON is a half-brother to seven-time graded turf stakes winner and $1.3 million earner Boisterous; bears watching.
Most Popular
Stories
DRF Products
1.
Steven Crist: Need a Travers longshot? Here you go
Posted 08/22/2013 03:25PM
2.
Travers Stakes: Verrazano in post 3 as 2-1 morning-line favorite
Posted 08/21/2013 12:19PM
3.
Travers Stakes: Verrazano can prove he\'s special
Posted 08/22/2013 01:50PM
4.
Travers: Godolphin\'s hopes rest with intriguing longshots Transparent, Romansh
Posted 08/21/2013 04:22PM
5.
Del Mar: Pacific Classic scenario could benefit Jeranimo
Posted 08/21/2013 03:02PM
.
Daily Racing Form
News
All News
Columnists
Breeding News
Sales News
Industry News
International
Headlines
Handicapping
DRF Weekend
DRF Slideshows
Harness
Search
Belmont Park
Betfair Hollywood
Churchill Downs
Del Mar
Fair Grounds
Gulfstream Park
Keeneland
Pimlico
Santa Anita Park
Saratoga
Kentucky Derby
Preakness Stakes
Belmont Stakes
Breeders\' Cup
Saratoga
Del Mar
DRF/NTRA Handicapping Championship
Blogs
Steven Crist
Brad Free
Derick Giwner
Jay Hovdey
Dan Illman
Barbara Livingston
DRF Now
Mike Watchmaker
Entries
Entries
Workouts
Workout Search
Changes
Track Information
Results
Results
Workouts
Workouts Search
PDF Charts
Chart Information
Stakes Replays
Handicapping & PPs
Individual Horse PPs
Individual Horse Charts
Mare\'s Produce with Beyer
Pedigree with Beyer
Beyer on Demand
Lifetime Beyer Figures Report
The Wizard
DRF Gameplan
Quick Sheets
DRF Picks
Today\'s Racing Digest
Key Race Report
Positive ROI Report
Moss Pace Figure Reports
Debut Reports
BreezeFigs
WE Handicapping Report
Clocker Reports
Form Finder
Simulcast Weekly
DRF EasyForm PPs
DRF Classic PDF PPs
DRF Formulator PPs
DRF HarnessEye PPs
DRF Daily Harness Program PPs
Daily Racing Program PPs
DRF Plus
Simulcast Daily
Text Charts
Stakes Schedule
Stakes Results
Racing Dates
Cancelled Races
TV Schedule
International PPs
Point of Call Index
Purse Value Index
3-Year Best Time Chart
Live Odds
Horse Watch
Carryover Watch
Trainer Watch
Race Watch
Leaderboard
Watchmaker Watch
DRF Ticketmaker
Race Tracks
Casinos
Account Wagering
Breeding
Racing and Charitable
Contests/Games
Regional/Free
Radio Shows
Video
Derby Watch Top 20
Friday Happy Hour
Mid-Atlantic Saturday Preview
Weekend Warrior
Weekend Stakes Analysis
Race of the Day
Learn to Play
Stakes Replays
Crist & Watchmaker
Learn
Learn to Play
History of Horseracing
How to read PPs
How to use EasyForm
How to use Formulator
How to use TicketMaker
Beyer Speed Figures
Moss Pace Figures
Racing Post Ratings
BreezeFigs Handicapping
Wagering and Winning
Night School
Harness Night School
Events
Saratoga 2013
Del Mar 2013
2013 Breeders\' Cup Challenge
Road To The 2014 Kentucky Derby
Belmont Stakes
Kentucky Derby
Kentucky Oaks
2013 Dubai World Cup
2013 NHC 14
2012 Eclipse Awards
Breeders\' Cup Rankings
Travers Stakes
More
About DRF
Customer Service
Website Policies
Advertising Opportunities
Partners
Classifieds
Stocks
Sports Odds
Get Adobe Reader
Facebook
Twitter
YouTube
![\"Advertisement\"](\"http://fw.adsafeprotected.com/rfw/dc/18902/1197478/ad/N3867.456584.XAXIS.COM/B7738274.83;abr=!ie4;abr=!ie5;dcopt=;sz=728x90;pc=[TPAS_ID];ord=352526188?\")
About Us
Advertising Opportunities
Classifieds
Customer Service
Partners
Website Policies
© 2013 Daily Racing Form. All rights reserved. | Credits
DRF:
SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. – A law set to go into effect Jan. 1 in New York will require out-of-state account-wagering operators to pay a 5-cent fee for every dollar wagered through their operations by a New York resident, with the brunt of those fees going to their New York competitors.
The law, which was contained in a bill passed earlier this year dealing with casinos in the state, will explicitly allow out-of-state account-wagering operators to take bets from New York residents for the first time. State law had previously been unclear on whether out-of-state operators could legally take bets from New York customers. Still, most large account-wagering providers began taking bets from New Yorkers within the past five years, if not earlier.
The law calls the 5 percent fee a "market-origin fee," and it will be applied to any wager made by a New York customer, regardless of whether the customer is betting on a race at a New York track or an out-of-state track.
Account-wagering companies typically retain 10 to 20 cents per dollar wagered.
The most prominent account-wagering operators that will be affected by the fees are twinspires.com, TVG, and XpressBet, the three largest such operations in the United States. The money raised by the fee will be required to be deposited in an account maintained by the state, with distributions determined by a set of statutory formulas.
Courtney Norris, a spokeswoman for Churchill Downs Inc., which owns twinspires.com, said the company would not comment on the legislation or the fees. Officials for TVG and XpressBet did not return phone calls Friday.
Lee Park, a spokesman for the New York State Gaming Commission, which regulates racing in the state, said that the commission provided "technical assistance" on the bill because of a report it prepared in 2012 analyzing account wagering in New York. Park said the language in the bill was agreed to "by all OTBs, harness tracks, and Thoroughbred tracks."
Under the law, 40 percent of the money provided by the fee will be distributed to the state's five offtrack betting companies. Another 50 percent will go to the state's racetracks, including the New York Racing Association, Finger Lakes, and the seven harness tracks operating in New York. The state will retain the remainder.
NYRA and Finger Lakes will receive 60 percent of the share that goes to racetracks, with the state's harness tracks receiving 40 percent. It is unclear how that ratio was determined. According to the New York gaming commission report, account-wagering handle in 2011 on New York Thoroughbred races was $193 million, compared to $18 million on harness races, a more than 10-to-1 difference.
NYRA will retain "5/6ths" of the amount going to NYRA and Finger Lakes, according to the law. Forty percent of NYRA's share will go toward purses, 20 percent will go toward breeders' awards, and the remainder will be retained by NYRA.
All told then, NYRA – which operates the three largest Thoroughbred tracks in New York – will receive 10 percent of the money distributed from the fund.
NYRA officials declined to comment on the legislation this week.
NYRA and the state's five offtrack betting companies all operate their own account-wagering operations. The levy of the 5 percent fee will likely put the out-of-state operators at a competitive disadvantage compared to their in-state competitors by squeezing their profit margins on New York bets.
Post
11 Comments
RSS|Subscribe
long_shot_alert34 minutes ago
You know what gets me, where was the reporting on this? DRF?
Reply
0
long_shot_alert37 minutes ago
Throw Chris Kay your nickels if you see him at Saratoga.
Reply
0
Sal Carcia1 hour ago
This bill will only discourage betting in NY. Many of the ADW players will not make the switch and will bet less if the surcharge is passed on to them. Also, this will discourage TVG and HRTV from promoting NY racing. NY racing will be given less priority during their broadcasts. It will also discourage the ADWs from running marketing promos on NY tracks. This move is shortsighted. But what can one expect from politicians combined with and an industry with short-term thinking.
Reply
0
Larry Rhinehart10 hours ago
Every new idea state officials and horsemen dream up is bad for business. Would be nice if they could come up with changes that would increase attendance and handle.. Sadly , the business model of those in charge does just the opposite.
Reply
+2
Ryan Cale13 hours ago
i don\'t think it is an additional tax on your bets. i think it is supposed to come from the account wagering sites takeout that they normally would keep as profit. so instead of keeping 12-20% of every bet as their fee, they will have to give 5% to NY. It is basically like reducing the account wagering sites takeout (sort of like a rebate but the money goes to NY instead of the bettor). i can\'t imagine that the account wagering sites will try to pass the 5% on to their clients....but this is horse racing, where the bettors that support the entire industry are treated like walleyed bastard step-children.
Reply
+2
Marty Brink14 hours ago
I believe New York tracks already have the highest purses in the nation. Can\'t be happy with the millions they\'re already raking in, they have to gouge the little bettor for a nickle on the dollar. Works for the Airlines and the Banks, and they\'re making billions, they\'re thinking,we might as well gouge the customers too.I agree with Patricia Doyle.
Reply
+1
Patricia Doyle14 hours ago
Frankly, if the nickle fee was going to help the horses, i.e.a retirement account that would be used to upkeep retired horses I would not mind. But NY State? Hell no.
NYRA and state officials are probably going to get raises now. I think it stinks.
They should have retirement accounts for aging horses.
I like what Suffolk downs does and how they are helping to place retiring horses.
Maybe I will start to gamble up there.
I like the mid Atlantic circuit anyway. I like Delaware, Parx and in the Winter I like Charles Town.
When NY state is done taking bettors money the feds then are figuring out how to income tax the rest of it.
I play the horses for a living. This augments my SS check. I am seriously thinking about going back to work as a groom. Golden years, ha. Cant even bet the horses in NY without NY digging into our pockets. It stinks.
Reply
+2
Randy Atkins15 hours ago
everyone should quit betting N.Y. tracks...they usually have 20-30 scratches a day and you have to re-handicap races which takes forever....they are doing everything they can to get people to quit betting
Reply
0
Lawrence Vaccarelli15 hours ago
time to switch to nyra I guess
Reply
0
Michael Infurna15 hours ago
Another tax to screw the horse player!!
Reply
1 reply
+2
Best Bets
Dave Litfin
August 24, 2013
Saratoga
Race #3
Bobby\'s Kitten
Get PPs
Bet Now
BOBBY\'S KITTEN was hard held early, finished well in traffic and galloped out strongly past the wire when bet to favoritism for debut; homebred from world\'s hottest owner/breeder can turn the tables on STROLL TO VICTORY. The latter finished gamely to miss in head bob first out while fairly well supported; obvious threat. LULU LE\' MON is a half-brother to seven-time graded turf stakes winner and $1.3 million earner Boisterous; bears watching.
Most Popular
Stories
DRF Products
1.
Steven Crist: Need a Travers longshot? Here you go
Posted 08/22/2013 03:25PM
2.
Travers Stakes: Verrazano in post 3 as 2-1 morning-line favorite
Posted 08/21/2013 12:19PM
3.
Travers Stakes: Verrazano can prove he\'s special
Posted 08/22/2013 01:50PM
4.
Travers: Godolphin\'s hopes rest with intriguing longshots Transparent, Romansh
Posted 08/21/2013 04:22PM
5.
Del Mar: Pacific Classic scenario could benefit Jeranimo
Posted 08/21/2013 03:02PM
.
Daily Racing Form
News
All News
Columnists
Breeding News
Sales News
Industry News
International
Headlines
Handicapping
DRF Weekend
DRF Slideshows
Harness
Search
Belmont Park
Betfair Hollywood
Churchill Downs
Del Mar
Fair Grounds
Gulfstream Park
Keeneland
Pimlico
Santa Anita Park
Saratoga
Kentucky Derby
Preakness Stakes
Belmont Stakes
Breeders\' Cup
Saratoga
Del Mar
DRF/NTRA Handicapping Championship
Blogs
Steven Crist
Brad Free
Derick Giwner
Jay Hovdey
Dan Illman
Barbara Livingston
DRF Now
Mike Watchmaker
Entries
Entries
Workouts
Workout Search
Changes
Track Information
Results
Results
Workouts
Workouts Search
PDF Charts
Chart Information
Stakes Replays
Handicapping & PPs
Individual Horse PPs
Individual Horse Charts
Mare\'s Produce with Beyer
Pedigree with Beyer
Beyer on Demand
Lifetime Beyer Figures Report
The Wizard
DRF Gameplan
Quick Sheets
DRF Picks
Today\'s Racing Digest
Key Race Report
Positive ROI Report
Moss Pace Figure Reports
Debut Reports
BreezeFigs
WE Handicapping Report
Clocker Reports
Form Finder
Simulcast Weekly
DRF EasyForm PPs
DRF Classic PDF PPs
DRF Formulator PPs
DRF HarnessEye PPs
DRF Daily Harness Program PPs
Daily Racing Program PPs
DRF Plus
Simulcast Daily
Text Charts
Stakes Schedule
Stakes Results
Racing Dates
Cancelled Races
TV Schedule
International PPs
Point of Call Index
Purse Value Index
3-Year Best Time Chart
Live Odds
Horse Watch
Carryover Watch
Trainer Watch
Race Watch
Leaderboard
Watchmaker Watch
DRF Ticketmaker
Race Tracks
Casinos
Account Wagering
Breeding
Racing and Charitable
Contests/Games
Regional/Free
Radio Shows
Video
Derby Watch Top 20
Friday Happy Hour
Mid-Atlantic Saturday Preview
Weekend Warrior
Weekend Stakes Analysis
Race of the Day
Learn to Play
Stakes Replays
Crist & Watchmaker
Learn
Learn to Play
History of Horseracing
How to read PPs
How to use EasyForm
How to use Formulator
How to use TicketMaker
Beyer Speed Figures
Moss Pace Figures
Racing Post Ratings
BreezeFigs Handicapping
Wagering and Winning
Night School
Harness Night School
Events
Saratoga 2013
Del Mar 2013
2013 Breeders\' Cup Challenge
Road To The 2014 Kentucky Derby
Belmont Stakes
Kentucky Derby
Kentucky Oaks
2013 Dubai World Cup
2013 NHC 14
2012 Eclipse Awards
Breeders\' Cup Rankings
Travers Stakes
More
About DRF
Customer Service
Website Policies
Advertising Opportunities
Partners
Classifieds
Stocks
Sports Odds
Get Adobe Reader
YouTube
About Us
Advertising Opportunities
Classifieds
Customer Service
Partners
Website Policies
© 2013 Daily Racing Form. All rights reserved. | Credits
Title: Re: Clueless Clowns Public Relations Move
Post by: miff on August 24, 2013, 09:51:38 AM
Post by: miff on August 24, 2013, 09:51:38 AM
Paesano Cuomo a no show again on Travers Day. His disdain for the blueblood wealthy horse owners is one thing,snubbing the regular players/folks,classless!
Title: Re: Clueless Clowns Public Relations Move
Post by: miff on August 27, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
Post by: miff on August 27, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
NYRA flirting with extending SPA again.Heres what racing quality looks like at SPA over time.
Number of Maiden Claiming races at SPA meet:
2013: ?
2012: 59
2010: 55
2005: 10
2000: 11
1995: 5
1990: 0
If they extend,guess quality will suffer more especially with horse shortage getting worse from reduced foal crops last 5 years.
NYRA killing the goose that laid the golden egg?
Number of Maiden Claiming races at SPA meet:
2013: ?
2012: 59
2010: 55
2005: 10
2000: 11
1995: 5
1990: 0
If they extend,guess quality will suffer more especially with horse shortage getting worse from reduced foal crops last 5 years.
NYRA killing the goose that laid the golden egg?