I\'m hoping to get half of Finnegan\'s ML. Solid effort over AP in the Secretariat last year. Drawn inside and with NM and LM in here, FW should have room to kick w/o having to go wide.
Last number at Belmont could be the start of a 4 yo turf horse coming to pass.
Good Luck,
Joe B
what a tough race. seems like everyone is running in the 2-3 range with a couple of 1\'s sprinkled in. Rahystrada is as consistent as they come and at 20-1 seems like a fair price but I have a feeling it won\'t be good enough to win but a nice play for the exotics. Can Little Mike crawl through the first half here in 51? How much of a negative will the outside posts be?
Doubt they get in front of Nate\'s Mineshaft, who will get a play from me to crawl upfront..Tough race so why not
\"Tough race so why not\"
Because Michael de Kock has a horse entered.....
I agree, taking long odds on Nate for the same reason. He is only the fastest horse in the race also. Worth a shot.
i\'m going to with Real Solution hoping chad/ramsey combo pops a new top for this lightly raced 4yo. playing with guest of honor/rahy/grandeur.
GLTA!
Rick, stay off Garcia for me. LOL!
justwin Wrote:
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> Rick, stay off Garcia for me. LOL!
I\'ve decided to pass the race, so you are golden.
I like Grandeur. Small colt has bad post but looked on his toes on track and has pointed for this with light campaign. Think the pace will quicken earlier than most and the last strong run will nail it.
Will be very surprsied if Little Mike fires...just not sure about him
justwin Wrote:
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> i\'m going to with Real Solution hoping chad/ramsey
> combo pops a new top for this lightly raced 4yo.
> playing with guest of honor/rahy/grandeur.
>
> GLTA!
>
> Rick, stay off Garcia for me. LOL!
Thanks Fairmount for the saver exacta, but geez what a brutal beat.
EDIT: Objection.
I thought I had the winner then it appeared Apache came back for the win. I turned the race off, noticed it wasn\'t official and turned it back on to see Real Solution in the winners circle. Watched the head on replay, I feel real fortunate even though Apache came out on Real Solution.
justwin Wrote:
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> I thought I had the winner then it appeared Apache
> came back for the win. I turned the race off,
> noticed it wasn\'t official and turned it back on
> to see Real Solution in the winners circle.
> Watched the head on replay, I feel real fortunate
> even though Apache came out on Real Solution.
Came out several paths and brushed him. I think having RS get a nose in front then having TA come back helped the decision.
Shame on the Arlington stewards for not IMMEDIATELY
lighting the Inquiry sign. F\'n cowards were afraid
to do anything, and had their hand forced by the
objection.
DQ was about as open and shut as they come. A guy
can\'t give his all towards forward momentum when
he\'s being pushed sideways like that. If you disagree,
get on a horse and have another guy barrel into you.
And as previously advertised, I had $0.00 in the race...
of course. Frickin\' Alan Garcia...it\'s like he knows!
An easy call. Horse drifted out 4 paths and bumped the other horse twice, and they finished a nice apart. If this wasn\'t a DQ, not sure what one is
The stewards should absolutely be fined for not putting up the inquiry. How do u miss the stretch run bumping incident between the the first two finishers who were well clear if the field. What the hell were they looking at?
If I recall correctly this jockey was DQed from the win in a past Arlington Million as well.
I just came home from the casino. I haven\'t been to a casino in over ten years. Hate it....but figured hey, if it\'s just gambling like the stewards say in a million dollar race, let\'s see what happens. Stuck to my conservative, disciplined play I employ at parimutuel wagering and won some money at some cards. But I still love the horses far more...
With that said, regardless of where you stand on the objection/Dq, the Chicago stewards are horribly inconsistent in my opinion. One example, about ten years ago this December, I had a 44-1 shot running at Hawthorne I touted to all my friends at Fairmount. I bet him heavy to win; Keyed him on top of the trifecta; and played him in horizontals...this is extraordinary confidence for me.....he finished second after unbelievable bumping, cutting off by a Shannon Ritter charge that was 8-1. If The Apache committed assault today, then this Ritter horse committed rape, assault, and murder all in the final two strides (or at least that\'s how I recall)....and after a long inquiry like today, the result on that day stood. Friends were more upset then me. I had the exacta and made $500 or so on a race where I should have been paid close to $10k. So today was par for the course.
My plays on confident bets are often decided by the whim of a steward. It\'s part of the game and I accept that ....however, it drives the most disciplined of us to go play a damn card game at a casino afterwards.
For those that say it was obvious, watch the pan again. Was The Apache extending his lead in the last two to three strides when they were clear of each other or not? Was it because Garcia quit riding? Idk...but one thing is for certain early in the day on hrtv, ramsey announced the million horse was his best bet of the day....so, congrats to ramsey who I believe has some sort of advantage lately--and it\'s not his sire.
De Kock has ran second in the million twice now btw....On to the next race that is worth betting; best of luck to the disciplined
Fairmount1 Wrote:
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> For those that say it was obvious, watch the pan
> again. Was The Apache extending his lead in the
> last two to three strides when they were clear of
> each other or not? Was it because Garcia quit
> riding?
Let\'s correct a couple of things, first:
1. Real Solution and The Apache were clear of the
rest of the field...but not each other. Once The
Apache initiated contact, there was pretty much
*continuous* contact between the two all the way
out to the 6 or 7 path.
2. Garcia never quit riding; he simply changed to
survival mode so he and his mount didn\'t get knocked
on their asses.
(This is why the stewards *also* look at the head-on
shot...not just the pan.)
What the pan *does* show it that Real Solution did
get in front of The Apache ever so briefly...you then
have to switch to the head on to see that RS spent
the remainder of the race dealing with getting mugged
by his rival.
Yes, the Illinois stews can be as bad as any of the
others, but this one was pretty much a slam dunk.
And yes, Ken Ramsey can be obnoxious, but I don\'t see
how that has anything to do with getting a race outcome
adjudicated correctly.
I made a play on The Apache and of course I\'m not happy about the DQ but I can see why they took the horse down. This was my second DQ of a horse at AP in two weeks and 5 since May, 2 at Churchill, one at Belmont. Having some bad racing luck lately because 3 of those DQ\'s killed me in gimmicks, all of the winners were over 5-1.
Here is my 2 cents for whatever it\'s worth. The problem with DQ\'s is the human element. Most of us can say we\'ve seen worse let stand when we get DQ\'d. Here\'s my suggestion. Let all results stand for the betters but suspend the jockey\'s and adjust the purse awards for horses that would have been DQ\'d. This way you\'ll have consistency for the bettor and leave human judgement calls out of wagering. Sometimes we may get burned but I\'d rather have an absolute than a judgement call when my money is on the line.
billk5300s Wrote:
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> Here is my 2 cents for whatever it\'s worth. The
> problem with DQ\'s is the human element. Most of
> us can say we\'ve seen worse let stand when we get
> DQ\'d. Here\'s my suggestion. Let all results
> stand for the betters but suspend the jockey\'s and
> adjust the purse awards for horses that would have
> been DQ\'d. This way you\'ll have consistency for
> the bettor and leave human judgement calls out of
> wagering. Sometimes we may get burned but I\'d
> rather have an absolute than a judgement call when
> my money is on the line.
You don\'t think connections bet on races?? What happens in a lowly claiming race, when the wager exceeds any winnings from the purse??
Sports is littered with judgment calls. This idea isn\'t a good one on many levels.