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Title: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: mlnolan00 on June 11, 2013, 07:12:20 PM
Your Restore the Shore (a wonderful name by the way)could be a key to a big day.  How is your boy doing and do expect him to preform well in that last Belmont race tomorrow?

Also, I am the filly to checked you in at the Derby Trainers Dinner and introduced myself as also being on this board and admiring your thoughtful responses.  

Good luck tomorrow with RtS!! :)
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: covelj70 on June 12, 2013, 05:25:27 AM
hey there, how are you?

that trainers dinner was one of the highlights of Derby week for you.

you all did a fabulous job with that, thanks so much for all of the work you all put into that.  Great event

Sadly, they took race 9 off the turf today and so we scratched.

It\'s a real shame because we really have him going in the right direction (for his level) and anyone who saw the sheets for this one knew he was going to be tough to beat.

The weather up here is killing me between having to scratch today and likely having to scratch Swift Warrior out of a similarly attractive spot on Friday if the weather in NY is as bad tomorrow as it\'s suppossed to be.

Thanks again for the thoughts, hope you are great
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: covelj70 on June 12, 2013, 05:27:17 AM
sorry, I meant it was one of the highlights of Derby week for me, not you!
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: P-Dub on June 12, 2013, 09:25:24 AM
Hey Jim, maybe it was a highlight for her too.
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: TreadHead on June 12, 2013, 09:55:02 AM
Was just curious Jim (if you don\'t mind sharing), you made some comments in your Derby interviews about usually only buying proven horses.  Was this one you bought at auction, or at some point afterward?  Since his first race (didn\'t seem to be a trainer change)?  This would seem to highlight the dangers of buying unproven horses at auction (unless you bought him afterwards for something closer to his claiming price).
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: covelj70 on June 12, 2013, 10:56:53 AM
Tread,

good question

this one is a classic example of why I prefer to buy privately.

This horse stinks relative to what I paid for him at the yearling sale

I got cute and tried to buy some pedigree at a yearling sale and it came back to bite me.

Even worse, the agent I use to buy all of my horses wasn\'t at this particular sale so he never saw the horse before I bought him which was a huge mistake

I love Lemon Drop Kid and this was a stakes winning Danzig line mare and I love the LDK/Danzig cross so I bought a yearling that my agent (who has forgotten more about evaluating a horses physical appearance that I will ever know) didn\'t see.  

Big mistake.  Pushes me even me toward the private sale market where I have made my last 6 or 7 buys since this debacle.

Live and learn.  Haven\'t even looked at a sale catalog for a yearling sale since.
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: plasticman on June 12, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
Jim, i feel that buying unraced prospects is a HUGE gamble since many of them never actually race, i do agree with the stance  you\'ve taken to buy \'ready made\' horses who have proven they have talent and the ability to actually get to the track.

Buying yearlings, especially expensive ones, is a rich mans game, i mean REALLY rich, you have to be sneezing hundreds in order to get involved in that part of the game.

Question about Restore the Shore. why not just race on the dirt? Its only like a 5 or 6 horse field if you toss out all the 30-1 ML horses or higher, seems like a good spot to have taken a shot, the turf race that you\'re now waiting for will be a full(er) field.

At any rate, GL with this horse, hope you can get some of that purchase price back in his next start!
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: covelj70 on June 12, 2013, 12:06:48 PM
plastic, thanks alot for the thoughts

in terms of why not race on dirt, his action on the dirt is really ugly and that\'s even in the breezes in the morning when he isn\'t asked for full speed.

If we ran him on the dirt, we run the risk of hurting him with the way he moves.

As you can see from the sheets, his first syn race was actually quite good for this level and as we did over time with Screenplay who we dropped down to a 16k tag, if we can win a few races at the lower level and then bring him on, maybe he can get good. Big if but that\'s probably our only shot with him.

Bad news is we got 10 days for scratching him (which is dumb) so he can\'t run for 10 days.  I don\'t usually complain about \"the man\" and I usually stay away from the discussions on the board about poor management decisions in racing but they give us 10 days for scratching out of this race and then they wonder why they can\'t fill cards.  Stupid
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: TGJB on June 12, 2013, 12:09:09 PM
Jim, \"the man\" can\'t complain about \"the man\".
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: covelj70 on June 12, 2013, 12:10:36 PM
hah, good one JB
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: plasticman on June 12, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
lol Jer, that\'s funny, good one!

I dont understand why the \'jail time\' with a surface change, its not like you just scratched \'because\'. You entered on turf, they switched surfaces, i dont get the punishment for that particular situation, makes no sense.
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: covelj70 on June 12, 2013, 12:35:01 PM
That makes 2 of us.
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: plasticman on June 12, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
Jim, NY is weird in the sense that they seem to permit trainers to \'cross enter\' back to back days and if the horse scratches on the first day and takes the entry for the 2nd day, they seem to be ok with that. NY seems pretty liberal with entering and scratching, maybe there\'s a rule with shippers and since your horse didnt race in NY last time, that\'s part of the problem?

I wonder if David \"i have a million horses\" Jacobson has the same \"wait 10 days\'problems as you do.
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: plasticman on June 23, 2013, 12:04:11 PM
GL Covello, \"Shore\" racing in a few mins at Belmont in the 5th. Yukky post.
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: drbillym on June 23, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
When both Veracruyze and Seigel on hrtv picked him, I knew we were in trouble
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: Rick B. on June 23, 2013, 01:44:08 PM
drbillym Wrote:
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> When both Veracruyze and Seigel on hrtv picked
> him, I knew we were in trouble

The fix for this is to get DirecTV, which does not
carry HRTV.

No more Seigel and his understudy, \"The Purple One\".
Title: Re: Covello and Restore the Shore
Post by: drbillym on June 23, 2013, 03:13:52 PM
Todd schrupp just as annoying