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Title: Jacobson
Post by: jjambrose on May 23, 2013, 06:44:25 PM
Spa City Fever got a 97 fig ( Last 3 BSF figs 76-82-90 ), Princess Mara 79 ( 66-56-68), Sing Dixie Sing 81 ( 69-77-56).
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: CHOWDERMAN on May 24, 2013, 08:00:20 AM
no comment yet from anyone on what jacobson did yesterday...four, first off the claims winners, and according to the prelim beyers, all improved their speed figs...and hes going up in class and improving off of husion and asmussen...   http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-park-jacobson-wins-four-first-claim-horses
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: Al Caught Up on May 24, 2013, 08:27:14 AM
He\'s a \'model\' trainer, just like his old man...
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: jerry on May 24, 2013, 08:29:05 AM
After looking at the Redboard sheets none of them seemed impossible. My guess is they all returned to their most recent tops. Not enough there yet for me to bet him blindly.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: CHOWDERMAN on May 24, 2013, 08:47:52 AM
just checked out the redboard room...you\'re right, they were all haveable, but all four winning??....does anyone know if jacobson uses thorograph, it appears he must....as they said in When Harry Met Sally,  \"i\'ll have what he\'s having..\"
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: TGJB on May 24, 2013, 10:28:45 AM
In a totally unrelated story...


http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/vet-caught-injecting-cibelli-horse-suspended-90-days-agrees-to-cooperate/
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: drbillym on May 24, 2013, 10:50:39 AM
Another example of how the illegal use of legal drugs is more of a problem than the existence of undetectable new substances.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: TGJB on May 24, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
Maybe. How do you know that\'s what was happening?
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: drbillym on May 24, 2013, 11:13:03 AM
I don\'t know, you are right.  I assumed the injection, being intraarticular, would be an antiinflammatory steroid, whereas other performance enhancing drugs would be given intravenously.  It will be interesting to find out what the substance was.
This is, for sure, more evidence of cheating by high percentage trainers, so you are right on track there.  Cibelli should definitely receive a suspension as well as the vet.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: razzle on May 24, 2013, 06:53:09 PM
Well, it is somewhat related when speaking of Jacobsen since for now we are not sure of all those for whom the cibelli tolls.  At any rate, isn\'t it amazing how some of these super-talented, hard-working, treat-their-horses and their-staff-well-trainers can so suddenly lose all of their skills?  Let\'s hope this vet gets verbal incontinence.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: Themig on May 25, 2013, 05:31:31 AM
Jacobson could have another 4 wins today. Cant beat-em, join-em
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: Boscar Obarra on May 25, 2013, 11:04:32 AM
According to a certain \'analyst\', all those winners of DJ are over bet.

 Guess we should be betting the under bet losers. Silly me.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: paniolo on May 25, 2013, 11:42:26 AM
To follow up on Razzle\'s post, in jacobson\'s case the son also rises.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: Rich Curtis on May 25, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
Razzle wrote:

\"for now we are not sure of all those for whom the cibelli tolls. At any rate, isn\'t it amazing how some of these super-talented, hard-working, treat-their-horses and their-staff-well-trainers can so suddenly lose all of their skills?\"

To Have and Have Not?
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: plasticman on May 25, 2013, 02:00:42 PM
Those horses you mention are all first time Jacobson\'s. One of the horses that is interesting to monitor is a horse named Temecula Creek.That horse was toiling in the winter at Aqueduct and now, all of a sudden, he seems to have found the fountain of youth and he\'s running back in 7 days and winning to prove it.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: Beau on May 25, 2013, 05:37:22 PM
Temecular Creek was not going to win if the 2 horse did not get in a ton of trouble...
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: makomaniac on May 26, 2013, 07:31:03 PM
He won\'t stop until they take him out in handcuffs. Total embarassment to NYRA. They have made a total mockery of the claiming game. Defies all logic and the stewards and upper level management are aleep at the wheel.
Rick Violette should be removed from his position as a do nothing figure head for the horseman. I hope politicians decide that they receive no subsidy at all.
Whatever security is being used for the Belmont stakes should be used year round and the funding should come from the money being given to subsidize racing.
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: makomaniac on May 26, 2013, 07:37:23 PM
On another note I want to add that the super trainers can not move horses up on the turf like they do on the dirt.I have had three great days betting turf only. Don\'t understand why?? Even Dutrow could not make them improve on turf. I guess that is why they call it the \"blood horse\".
Title: Re: Jacobson
Post by: Fairmount1 on May 26, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Makomaniac wrote:  \"Whatever security is being used for the Belmont stakes should be used year round and the funding should come from the money being given to subsidize racing.\"

Agreed 100%.  Why isn\'t everyone demanding this?  Owners, bettors, trainers, etc.  As I\'ve said before, wouldn\'t this protect the trainers too????