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Title: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: covelj70 on May 22, 2013, 10:45:23 AM
As per the figures that JB was kind enough to post, Swift warrior runs the fastest figure in the race by a full point and he finishes up the track

Ground loss
Ground loss
Ground loss

Weight
Weight
Weight


It\'s not easy finding a good next spot for him where he won\'t give up a ton of weight or face monsters.   Been looking all week. Suggestions welcome.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: TGJB on May 22, 2013, 11:12:38 AM
It could have been worse. It was a coin toss to take off another point from the race.

You need to find a handicap or something else that doesn\'t have allowance conditions.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: covelj70 on May 22, 2013, 11:14:29 AM
Good god.

Problem with the upcoming handicap is the distance amd point of entry. I know his figs so honestly more worried about the distance.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: Michael D. on May 22, 2013, 11:46:16 AM
Hi Jim,

First, thanks for the Dixie Stakes rundown. Skyring was impossible, but you had good calls on Willcox and the beaten favorite Imagining.

How about the Bernard Baruch Handicap, spend a few days with the family upstate. No reason why your guy can\'t run a  \'1\' going 1 1/16 over that course. Always love Labor Day w/e up there.

Or maybe the Poker at Bel? Doesn\'t look like there\'s much at Del or Mth.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: TGJB on May 22, 2013, 12:13:54 PM
You have any reason to think he WON\'T handle 1 1/4? He ran a top at the longest distance he tried. Why not try? Off the loss you\'ll do okay in the weights. And if he does handle it, it opens a lot of doors.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: elkurzhal on May 22, 2013, 02:03:56 PM
Arlington Handicap -> Million ?
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: BH on May 22, 2013, 02:11:44 PM
Is there anything at Royal Ascot?

Works for Ramsey.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: BH on May 22, 2013, 02:14:32 PM
quote from racing post........

The remaining 23 races of the royal meeting are made up of lesser Group events and cracking handicaps.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: TMW on May 22, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
How about the Eddie Read at Del Mar? July 20 -- Mile and 1/8. Grade 1 race -- no monsters out here.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: Labeebmile on May 24, 2013, 09:19:57 PM
The Gr.II, $200k Monmouth Stakes closes in two days. Quick wheelback running on June 9th, but haven\'t read of any real monsters heading there. 9 furlongs won\'t be a problem.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: Tavasco on May 24, 2013, 11:43:16 PM
Woodbine King Edward G2 $200K 1 Mile late June
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: CHOWDERMAN on May 25, 2013, 06:37:05 AM
Belt Parkway Handicap,Grade 1A, everyday 5pm....don\'t know what shoes Warrior should wear for potholes, bends?
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: covelj70 on May 25, 2013, 09:20:16 AM
Thanks for the thoughts all

We considered the Monmouth race but the weight conditions there are even worse than the Dixie. We would have to give up 7lbs to all of them in that one.

The woodbine race is also a consideration. We are calling the racing office to get the weight conditions of that one as they aren\'t online yet.

There\'s an overnight stake at Belmont on June 14th where the weight isn\'t terrible and he could run out of his stall against competition he should handle.

Thanks again all for the thoughts.

Oscar party in at Churchill today. She\'s training great but she\'s a few steps slow for these. Will really have to step up her game to win.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: CHOWDERMAN on May 25, 2013, 11:56:31 AM
congrats.....
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: covelj70 on May 25, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
Thanks alot. Honestly didn\'t see that one coming. She didn\'t figure on the sheets. Makes up for last few when I thought we were loaded and we lost.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: TGJB on May 25, 2013, 04:04:22 PM
Ground loss, ground loss, ground loss. That\'s the advantage of giving rider instructions.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: covelj70 on May 25, 2013, 04:32:53 PM
Yeah. At least this one listened.

Funny how the 0 for 32 jocks follows instructions to a t and the all stars completely ignore us.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: CHOWDERMAN on May 25, 2013, 04:49:31 PM
have you tried to get joe rocco....he did real well on the turf at gp this winter...today at ap he came up the rail with a real nice one...he\'s been riding his ass off...
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: covelj70 on May 25, 2013, 06:26:18 PM
Love Rocco. Think he\'s terrific.

Used him om Citrus kid and coach royal

That said, he\'s a big strong guy. Can\'t put him on the little ones like Oscar party or falling sky. He\'s too big and strong for them.

If you have a big strong horse, he\'s one of the best in my opinion.
Title: Re: Swift warrior...ugh
Post by: Silver Charm on May 26, 2013, 05:09:37 AM
Good stuff Jim and thanks for sharing this thinking. If its any consolation I know that Derby Day they really liked Atigun (found out AFTER the race via a pre-race text....ugh) on the Turf and he validated some of that form in the Louisville Handicap yesterday. Should be a fun Saratoga for people.....

Met.and Belmont Day are first.;)