High Roller,
As I said last year, I get it, you don\'t like me.
That\'s no problem.
There\'s a line going out the door and up the West Side Highway of people who never met me who don\'t like me because of where I work and what I do.
If I was too worried about what people who don\'t know me thought of me, I would have moved to a log cabin and lived in seclusion a decade ago.
No one is asking you to stop hating me, please, go right ahead.
But what I am begging you is to not post anymore of the personal stuff on the board. This is the best time of the year in this game and on this board. There are people who come here to learn about the game (that we all love) and share ideas about the big races coming up. There are people who don\'t otherwise think about racing that much during the year that get interested this time of year and come to the board to check out to see what\'s going on.
When you post all of the attacks like last year and the most recent one, it ruins what\'s going on here for alot of good people.
So, please, I beg you, if you need to take shots at me, send me messages privately and spare everyone else that stuff because there are alot of people/friends on the board who step up to support me everytime you do that and that all just distracts from the great stuff that\'s going on this time of year.
Please!
Thanks alot,
Jim
All this hater stuff is comical - I don\'t know you from a hole in the wall. I have many people in the business who are friend\'s and I tell them the same thing.
It\'s a shame that the Derby has 20 horses in it. At least 6-7 are hopeless - by the time August rolls around most fan\'s cannot remember who ran in it.
Every couple of years a bomb hits and keeps hopes alive. One day there will be a tragic accident because of horses that don\'t belong in a 1 1/4 race and it will give a black eye to the Industry.
Why should I be quiet and not express my opinion?
High Roller,
The one race a year with 20 horses and huge pools. The best chance a gambler has to make a real hit and you\'re on this site calling it a shame.
Covelj50,
Good luck with River Rocks in the Lexington. Hope to see you in the winner\'s circle.
Frank
Lots of well meant horses run up the track, other longer prices run better. Like Giacomo, ridden by the great Mike Smith.
When you can come up with a system that can eliminate the seemingly \"better\" horses, and at the same time keep the \"not so good horses\" that outperform their odds, let us know.
Nobody cares about you expressing your opinion, its sounding like a Dick to someone who seems like a really good guy (never had a chance to meet the man) that people have a problem with.
Jim, Although we have never met and I rarely post on this board, I must tell you that I enjoy your posts as they are well thought out and always interesting. Don\'t waste your time on people like High Roller and enjoy the roll you are on. I might not be betting on you Derby Day, but I\'ll certainly be rooting for you (and more than a little jealous of your position)....Good Luck, Ken
...and that\'s the only point that really matters. If you had been culling, Mine That Bird probably would have been the first cut. If Jim\'s horse gets in it\'s because he earned his way in, like everyone else. And if he chooses not to go it will still be a 20 horse field, just with someone in who earned less points.
Covelj70,
Don\'t worry about the haters, keep doing what you do!!
I know you you said you would be there this morning for swift warrior\'s work. Just curious how you thought he did and curious if you were able to see the Golden Soul work? Sort of like him underneath if he can draw in.
Once again thanks for all you contribute here!!
Agree with TGJB.
Plus, it could be worse.
Falling Sky could have run those same prep races in California, in which case his figures would make him too slow and non-competitive....... :)
Hah, jimbo, that\'s awesome!
love it
thanks for all of the kind words guys, really appreciate it
bstaubs,
thanks for the message, appreciate it.
I am actually heading down there on Friday night after I coach my sons baseball game so I wasn\'t there this morning.
I will definitely pass along anything of note that I see from any of the Derby and Oaks horses on Saturday and Sunday morning.
I wish this horse was in my stable. Provided that the horse was healthy and thriving, how could you not take a stab at etching YOUR name into the history of American sports?
I cannot imagine the out-of-body experience involved in 1) being on the backstretch Derby week 2) the draw 3) waking up Derby morning 4) the walk 5) My Old Kentucky Home 5) the race itself 6) watching the recorded NBC telecast 5,000 times till the DVR breaks.
Good luck to you, Mr. Covello.
That\'s makes my point - Owner\'s living vicariously through their horses - NOT for the benefit of the horse. Guaranteed Covello\'s horse finishes way back and then is knocked out for months!
As opposed to all those other owners who put their horses through it for the horse\'s sake.
Colonel,
you have my thought process pretty much nailed!
can\'t say it any better than that
thanks alot
\"I am actually heading down there on Friday night after I coach my sons baseball game\"
The kid\'s breeding is suspect. He\'s distance-challenged. He shouldn\'t be out there. I think you\'re just angling for a seat at the season-ending pancake breakfast.
Rich
omg, this is awesome. So good.
well done
My memory is not that good but are the only horses that win the derby 6/5 and 2-1 \"figure horses\" or do 30 and 40 -1 shots win also,and are the longshots that win are they part of the 6or 7 that have no chance.?You need to get a job.
JIM,AFTER READING ALL THE MESSAGES REGARDING YOUR WANTING TO GO TO THE KENTUCKY DERBY ,I WISH YOU THE BEST,EVERY HORSE PLAYERS AND GAMBLERS DREAM,NEVER MET YOU ,ENJOY YOUR COMMENTS ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSES,JUST TO HAVE A HORSE IN THE RACE IS A DREAM, I WAS A ONE HORSE STABLE BACK IN THE MID EIGHTIES,RACING AT FINGER LAKES,GARDEN STATE ,PHILADELPHIA PARK AND MEADOWLANDS,I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT MY HORSE WAS RUNNING AT GARDEN STATE ,TRAINED BY A JERSEY TRAINER JOHN MALLETO,AND I DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO GARDEN STATE AND THE HORSE WAS 30-1 BUT TRAINING GOOD AND JOHN MALLETO TURNS TO ME AND SAYS REMEMBER A HORSE CANT READ THE ODDS BOARD......THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS IF THE HORSE IS TRAINING GOOD AND FEELING GOOD YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE ,GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT,YOU PAY THE BILLS .....STELLA
Jim, you\'re living the dream right now, your horse comes first with you, and best of luck to you in the next few weeks! Enjoy!
Rich Curtis Wrote:
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> \"I am actually heading down there on Friday night
> after I coach my sons baseball game\"
>
> The kid\'s breeding is suspect. He\'s
> distance-challenged. He shouldn\'t be out there. I
> think you\'re just angling for a seat at the
> season-ending pancake breakfast.
I\'ll take every team they play against. Stuff like this is why Little League is going down the crapper.
Cmon now. Folks that have a clue , put up their money, and are willing to talk about their horses on a public board, are not exactly crawling out of the woodwork.
If you want to harass someone, there at least 50,000 more deserving prospects within shouting distance.
Covello is one of the good guys in the game, no need to single him out because he\'s running a longshot in the Ky Derby, horses are bred to run, Covello is running, its possibly a once in a lifetime opportunity. Take it out on Churchill for permitting 20 horses to run, its their race and their world, they are the ones who make this call to let 20 enter the gate.
ColonelShillito Wrote:
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> I wish this horse was in my stable. Provided that
> the horse was healthy and thriving, how could you
> not take a stab at etching YOUR name into the
> history of American sports?
>
> I cannot imagine the out-of-body experience
> involved in 1) being on the backstretch Derby week
> 2) the draw 3) waking up Derby morning 4) the walk
> 5) My Old Kentucky Home 5) the race itself 6)
> watching the recorded NBC telecast 5,000 times
> till the DVR breaks.
>
> Good luck to you, Mr. Covello.
5A) Falling sky most likely in the lead when they turn for home..
Hoping for a speed favoring track and a live rail for you Cov..Is it going to be Garcia again?
We are going to go with Luis Saez.
He called right after the horses crossed the wire in the Ark Derby (literally) and said he would have won the race on the horse because he can get the horse to relax like he did when he rode him before.
Just to be clear, I don\'t really think he would have won the race, I am just relating the story.
Anyway, we want a jock with confidence in the horse and Saez has had confidence in him since those allowance wins
He breezed him for us before the Sam Davis and got off and said \"this is a derby horse\"
Again, I don\'t want to get too carried away by a jock comment who is looking for his first derby mount but I do think horses can go longer when they are allowed to relax a bit early and so that\'s the plan.
Thanks,
Jim
Well if the horse win\'s my hat\'s off to you and I will not post anymore comments.
HR,
I love to hear what you have to say about the horses so I really hope you keep posting. It\'s the differences in opinion that keep this stuff interesting.
I just like for all of us to keep the posts about the horses and not the people.
jim, your a class act, guys like him ruin the game.
I\'m no fan of what HR said, but it\'s pretty far down on the list of what\'s ruining the game.
HR:
Educate yourself before you make such statements.
Just in the past five runnings
winners odds were 15,8,20,50 and 2.4 (all rounded except last.)
Are you prepared to say on the basis of odds none of the first 4 winners referred
to by those odds amounted to
anything thereafter in their 3 year-old campaigns? I\'ll Have Another won the
Preakness. Animal Kingdom and Mine That Bird ran 2nd. Ad infinitum on others
within that group and going further back in time.
Alysheba-8 to 1, Real Quiet-8 to 1, Genuine Risk- 13 to 1 and so on.
Refer to the list below and you\'ll see that winning at generous odds is
practically the
norm for the Ky Derby.
And that\'s why it\'s so important to confine yourself to honing your handicapping
skills this time of year.
http://horseracing.about.com/od/history/l/blderbywin.htm
jerry, you need the the merginal player in this game to make it last.the guy who spends 50 percent at the casino and 50 percent at the track. if everytime he comes to the track he heres negative things , he most likely wont come back at all.
I\'ve had some pretty high moments in my life - some you guys know about and others you don\'t that are just as professionally satisfying. But...I would trade \'em to have a horse in the Ky Derby. The walk from the backside to the paddock with your horse, your trainer, your family, partners, the fans, is one of the great non-performance moments in sports and I hope upon hope that one day I can make that walk - and walk in the footsteps of the greatest that ever played this game - with my horse and my family/friends.
Good luck to you Jim and team. You are doing the right thing and I know you will enjoy and soak up the moment as much you can.
Michael
and its 1 20 horse race. if it bothers you, pass it. i think by far its the best race of the year.