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Title: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: Bigredgoer on July 16, 2012, 10:46:50 AM
Any idea\'s yet as to schedule this year?
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: nicely nicely on July 16, 2012, 11:53:01 AM
Saratoga Handicapping Discussions
Every Saturday and Sunday
10:45AM-11:45 AM
Carolina Barbecue
(Across from the Carousel Theater)

Scheduled to Appear
7/21-22 Jerry Brown
7/28-29 TBA
8/4-5 TBA
8/11-12 Alan Benewitz
8/18-19 Jerry Brown
8/25-26 Alan Benewitz
9/2-3 Jerry Brown
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: jimbo66 on July 16, 2012, 07:11:25 PM
Hmm.....

For those that still have not decided on the best dates to go, I would roll the dice with either July 28/29 or August 4/5.  In other words, \"I will take what is behind curtain number 2!  :)

Jim
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: TGJB on July 16, 2012, 08:11:55 PM
Does this mean you\'ll give the seminar?
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: richiebee on July 16, 2012, 08:35:55 PM
Looks like TGAB finally wilted under the pressure and will be \"ducking\" the intense
yet good natured harassment Jimbo usually subjects him to at the seminar. Wouldn\'t be
surprised to see Jimbo stealthily materialize at one of Alan\'s 3 appearances.

You never know with TGAB, he might have opted out of Jimbo Dandy weekend due to a weak
card at SPAC.

Speaking of stealth, maybe this will be the year I purchase my first set of Ragozin
sheets and crash the seminar as the Clown formerly known as Chuckles a/k/a Cube.
Imagine I would get the same reception Hillary Clinton got in Egypt over the weekend
(think it was pretty cool that the crowd was chanting \"Mo-Ni-Ca, Mo-Ni-Ca\" at the
former first lady, the kind of moment that a lot of NY sports fans could appreciate).

Though we are still 12 days from the running of the Diana, expect to hear the
following from whomever leads the seminar: \"Winter Memories will be 4/5 yet she is
not even the third fastest runner in the race.\"
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: jimbo66 on July 17, 2012, 08:39:00 AM
TGJB,

That would result in:
 
1. A record low turnout for the seminar that weekend.

2. A potential to do so poorly, that I would be unable, in good conscience, to criticize TGAB\'s track record in the seminars, since the $96 dollar horse...
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: BenevolentDictator on July 17, 2012, 11:39:20 AM
Was the $96 horse a MCL first time starter going long on the turf that won by a nose?
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: TGJB on July 17, 2012, 11:44:53 AM
No, that one was mine, except it was more than a nose and more than $96. Last race. Trainer and pedigree stats are a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: BenevolentDictator on July 17, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
That\'s the race!  A Bruce Levine horse went off at 6-1 the race before and won by 10.  I had both winners and didn\'t play the double.  I am pretty sure the 56-1 horse did win by a nose, but who the hell cares, we all cashed.
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: NoCarolinaTony on July 19, 2012, 06:46:20 PM
Richie,

Will you be making an appearance this weekend? I\'m going to get there mid card Saturday just to give Jerry some more grief...Playing the national on Sunday am before the card. in the not that I am bragging category but just coming off a 79 at Jack Place in Dublin Ohio Muirfield Village. 4 Birdies and a painful  Double Bogie on Tigers famous 16th hole. Could have come in under par on that back 9 if not for that one bad bounce....

Hope to see many of you there for a few days.

Best Regards,
NC Tony
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: richiebee on July 19, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
NCT:

Great to hear from you, and it seems like from your scores you\'ve made a pretty good
recovery from some of your ailments.

I was going to go up this weekend, spur of the moment (one of those deals where I
would call my wife at about 9AM and say \"Guess where I am, honey\") if Sunday\'s card
was any good, especially because the weather looks outstanding.

As it turns out, Sunday\'s card is quite possibly one of the worst I\'ve ever seen on a
weekend at the Spa, so I will wait until next weekend. Also planning on at least a
couple of days of Labor Day weekend.

Playing in the TG Open sounds very tempting, but will have to get to the driving range
a couple of times -- haven\'t played since October 2007. My game is such that a 4+ year
layoff probably wouldn\'t make much difference.

I see that your pal Catalano is stabled at the Spa this year; he looks live in races
5 and 9 on Saturday.

Enjoy the golf and the gambling, Don Antonio.
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: TGJB on July 20, 2012, 09:30:26 AM
Sunday\'s is a very good betting card, better than Saturday.
Title: Re: Saratoga Seminar's
Post by: richiebee on July 20, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
JB:

A classic case of beauty being in the eyes of the beholder, subjective v
objective etc.

Sunday might have lots of great betting opportunities, but I will never know.
You have given me wide berth on this board to criticize NYRA and bemoan the
precipitous decline in racing in NY. It would be hypocritical for me to even
download the Form or TGs for a SUNDAY Saratoga card which
features 3 Bottom Claimers, a Maiden Claimer, 2 State Bred Allowance Races and
2 State bred MSWs plus the 2 stakes.

JB, I have no doubt in your ability to make a tasty chicken betting dish out of a
chickens--t card like this, but I can\'t support this kind of racing.

Saturday, on the other hand, starts off with a 100K stake which features some
graded stakes performers. The second race is for 2YOs and features the kind of
well bred prospect which we go to the Spa to see: Hot West, by Elusive Quality
out of the prolific stakes winning sprinter Xtra Heat, who according to my TG
data won 26 races lifetime, 25 of them stakes, but goes out for a trainer who has
done very little with 2YO firsters.

The middle of the card features mostly maidens, pass, but will come back for what
looks like a very competitive P4. They keep shortening the damn CCA Oaks -- it
used to be run at 1-1/2 miles, but by the time Campo and his crew are finshed
with it it will be a 6 furlong turf sprint.

Maybe I will go to the driving range Sunday. I literally haven\'t touched a golf
club in 4-1/2 years. If I can still move after a couple driving range sessions
and a nine hole blowout, maybe I will pre enter myself for the TG Open.