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Title: Giant Ryan
Post by: JR on June 10, 2012, 04:10:46 PM
Anybody have any news on him?
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: miff on June 10, 2012, 04:21:08 PM
Was alive this morning which was only 50-50 prop yesterday.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: sighthound on June 10, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
DRF posted this update this afternoon:  at Belmont, awaiting surgery later this week.   They have to get him to New Bolton somehow.

http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-giant-ryan-awaits-possible-surgery-pennsylvania
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: JR on June 10, 2012, 05:21:36 PM
Thank you. Pray for the best.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: Beau on June 11, 2012, 03:53:42 PM
I just read on twitter... Unfortunately Giant Ryan was euthanized! What a shame, sorry to hear!
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: Beau on June 11, 2012, 04:01:16 PM
here is the link: http://www.racing.ny.gov/breaksrch/searchbreakdown.detail.php?ID=5944

I hope this is not true..... read the disclaimer at the bottom.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: sighthound on June 11, 2012, 04:24:47 PM
What a shame it couldn\'t be repaired.  Condolences to the connections, they are very sad about this.

Checked Twitter:  9 hours ago (this morning) DRF Mike Welsch tweeted, \"Giant Ryan at New Bolton will have surgery early this afternoon.  Made 4 plus hour van ride like a champ said Parbhoo.\"

Could be that during surgery it was not found to be repairable.  Better would be that it was repaired, and NYRA website is wrong.  There is no time stamp on the site, other than today\'s date.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: jma11473 on June 11, 2012, 05:08:07 PM
It was a terrible injury and the odds are long against the horse surviving it, but as of Monday at 8pm the NYRA report that he was euthanized is not correct.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: sighthound on June 11, 2012, 05:49:07 PM
That\'s excellent news.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: Beau on June 11, 2012, 06:00:22 PM
Great to hear!
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: sighthound on June 11, 2012, 07:10:14 PM
QuoteTeresa Genaro ‏@BklynBckstretch
Re: NYSRWB item that says Giant Ryan was put down: spokesperson says that report was \"inadvertent\" & report has been taken down

What a bunch of maroons.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: miff on June 12, 2012, 07:05:31 AM
Sight,

The NYSRWB has the overall responsibility for administering racing in NY,yet does not even know when a horse has been put down.

Speaks volumes about the incompetency of which we all discuss here as it relates to those running the game.


Mike
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: Beau on June 12, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
Did GR suffer the same injury as Barbaro?
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: miff on June 12, 2012, 08:30:00 AM
\"According to Dr. Larry Bramlage, American Association of Equine Practitioners, X-rays show that Giant Ryan fractured both left front sesamoids and sustained ligament damage in back of his left front ankle\"

Sight,

Why does it mainly seem like fractures are of the sesamoids?


Mike
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: jma11473 on June 12, 2012, 01:09:25 PM
Giant Ryan is at New Bolton, but no surgery until the blood supply can be restored. As I said, it\'s a longshot, but hope for the best for this horse.

Giant Ryan surgery on hold (http://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloodstock/giant-ryan-update-surgery-on-hold/)
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: MO on June 14, 2012, 05:11:15 PM
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-news/2012/06/14/giant-ryan-euthanized.aspx

He did not survive..........
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: sighthound on June 14, 2012, 07:30:03 PM
Terribly sad news.  My condolences to the connections.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: sighthound on June 14, 2012, 09:56:40 PM
Sesamoids are integral to the somewhat complicated suspensory apparatus, running down the back of the leg, that keeps the ankle-pastern from hyperextending during stance phase/weight-bearing.  

Below the sesamoid bones (below ankle), there is no stretch to the ligaments that anchor the base of the suspens. apparatus.  Above the sesamoids (lower leg, back of cannon bone) there is some give.  

When you have an unfit horse, they tend to injure the tendons/ligaments above the sesamoid bones.  When you have a fit, hard horse, if something blows, it\'s usually the sesamoid bones shattering/breaking apart as the \"weakest link\" in the suspensary apparatus.

It\'s physics.
Title: Re: Giant Ryan
Post by: sighthound on June 14, 2012, 09:59:54 PM
Not exactly.  Same area, \"the ankle\".  Barbaro shattered the upper pastern bone, Giant Ryan broke the two small sesamoid bones at bottom back of cannon bone.