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Title: JB ..you were correct
Post by: Bigredgoer on June 08, 2012, 08:38:08 AM
JB...Your analysis of IHA and what to  possibly expect was spot on, unfortunately
it sounds like the horse will be retired ...Doug O\'Neil stated on Dan Patrick show \"He\'s probably run his last race.\"
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: TGJB on June 08, 2012, 09:19:12 AM
Nah, it\'s a coincidence, ask Miff...

I\'m just a fugitive from the law of averages.
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: miff on June 08, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
You are clueless. Probably 50 horses got hurt somewhere today that did not run negative anything.delayed reaction 3 weeks later and after 3 vets pronounced him well.

Jerry Brown disaster prognosticator.Brilliant
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: Rich Curtis on June 08, 2012, 09:32:24 AM
JB,

  Am I remembering this correctly? A few years ago, you said on the radio that the sport would be better off without another Triple Crown winner?

  If so, then your advice to space the Triple Crown better is a trade-off in which you are coming down on the side of horse safety, while reluctantly accepting the increased likelihood of a Triple Crown winner?
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: TGJB on June 08, 2012, 09:45:42 AM
I don\'t know if it\'s a plus and I think it only slightly would increase the chances of someone doing it, but I don\'t think it helps the industry to have a TC winner as much as people seem to think-- especially since they don\'t stay in one piece long enough to run a lot afterward. I mean, exactly what\'s the direct benefit? How does it increase business?

Other-- the good news is this horse didn\'t break down on the track. Man, that would have been it.

Miff, you\'re a funny guy.

I\'m going to go back later and see what I said about Revenge in that Derby seminar, not sure how definitive I got. (Went back, not that definitive).
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: P-Dub on June 08, 2012, 04:48:58 PM
miff Wrote:
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> You are clueless. Probably 50 horses got hurt
> somewhere today that did not run negative
> anything.delayed reaction 3 weeks later and after
> 3 vets pronounced him well.
>
> Jerry Brown disaster prognosticator.Brilliant

Some have reported that he was restless in the new barn, and may have kicked the wall.

If true, is this something that could injure a tendon??  Just asking.
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: miff on June 08, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
Paul,

They will speculate till the cows come home on how and when IHA was injured.If it was in the  detention barn stall and that comes out, transparent phony Sabini(NYSRWB honcho) who ordered re introduction of detention barn just for Belmont, should get run out of town.

On Thursday, after IHA galloped, O\'Neill was doing the customary probing/feeling on the horses legs when he felt a spot on the tendon that was not solid and a little puffy.It was \"treated\"(by a vet??) and the puffiness went away only to return after his morning exercise today.

Very common injury and just part of the whole wear and tear a horse must be able to avoid to win the TC.

Mike
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: Perfect Drift on June 08, 2012, 06:07:37 PM
seven lifetime races... SEVEN... and we are talking about wear and tear.  How insane does that sound...

He ran ONE time in seven months - his genetics for soundness obviously suck.  It\'s not wear and tear.
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: miff on June 08, 2012, 06:12:03 PM
Perfect,

You are forgetting hundreds of miles of training.Most injuries do NOT occur in a race but in training(mainly because they train like 23+ times per month and race only once per month.

Everytime a horse goes to the track to race or train there is a substantial chance that it comes out with an issue.


Mike
Title: Re: JB ..you were correct
Post by: MJ02X on June 09, 2012, 01:26:14 AM
Jerry had it right! If \"another\" ran in the Belmont and suffered a major injury in front of millions of fans on TV. It would have been the death nel for thorobred horse racing. PETA would have had a field day!