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Title: If true, this SUCKS if you bet Cali races!
Post by: Beau on May 28, 2012, 11:50:39 AM
Another article from NYT blog. The 3rd paragraph from the bottom is about California.

If true another shot in the arm to us the PLAYERS!
Title: Re: If true, this SUCKS if you bet Cali races!
Post by: Beau on May 28, 2012, 11:52:09 AM
Sorry here is the link...

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/alkalinization-lasix-and-milkshaking-a-veterinarians-view/
Title: Re: If true, this SUCKS if you bet Cali races!
Post by: sighthound on May 28, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Brief comment as requested by TGJB:

Lasix as one injection prior to a race or work has a predictably very minor and small raise in blood pH, nowhere near what milkshaking does to the blood pH.  The TCO2 levels we measure, what is \"over\" and not, takes this small and predictable rise into consideration.  It is about the same alkalynizing effect as some normal feeds and weather.

This vet is way over the line calling lasix the same as a milkshake.  That\'s patently absurd.

And it sure sounds like this guy was involved with (exposed to) alot of cheating.  But he says he was with standardbreds in the 1960\'s, 70\'s, 80\'s so yes, that was true 30 years ago (standardbred guys would do anything to a horse - the thoroughbred guys would follow their leads)

It\'s no longer 30 years ago.
Title: Re: If true, this SUCKS if you bet Cali races!
Post by: TGJB on May 28, 2012, 01:17:20 PM
Except in Staten Island, ask Miff. Ike is still President over there.
Title: Re: If true, this SUCKS if you bet Cali races!
Post by: miff on May 28, 2012, 01:24:55 PM
Nice try,next time you\'re right in a horse debate with me will be the first!
Title: Re: If true, this SUCKS if you bet Cali races!
Post by: TGJB on May 28, 2012, 01:33:48 PM
Please.