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Title: Churchill today
Post by: justwin on May 04, 2012, 09:25:07 AM
so far speed is holding. Haven\'t seen the races just going by the charts.
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: plasticman on May 04, 2012, 09:37:16 AM
Chalk is holding too, doesnt seem like any \'collapse\' factor on this track as of yet.
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: justwin on May 04, 2012, 10:03:49 AM
a 27-1 tried to wire the field in the 2nd only to lose by a nose.
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: toppled on May 04, 2012, 10:05:28 AM
2nd race was on the turf.
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: justwin on May 04, 2012, 10:09:01 AM
thanks. I try to get the right data out there but looked up drf quickly and didn\'t notice that.
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: plasticman on May 04, 2012, 11:26:59 AM
Many times, when a horse goes really fast on the front end, and the track is kind of deep and tiring, and the pace presser zooms by and wins for fun, the speed horse won\'t hold 2nd. In the 7th at CD, not only did the pace horse hold 2nd, but it wasnt even close. Tracks with \'normal\' biases don\'t play like that. Cheap speed can get pressed hard in fast fractions, and still hang around for a piece.

Im not sure what is \'up\' with this Churchill surface, but it seems like a superhighway and that\'s normally not conducive to boxing up the entire field and praying for 3 bombs to run 1-2-3.

There has always been some reason that track superintendents \'soup up\' the track for big days.....maybe they think \'fast times\' will attract new fans and make bettors want to bet more?

I know personally, i\'m looking to bet LESS. Give me the dead rail Churchill any day over this stuff.
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: HP on May 04, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
Plastic - I\'m not watching the races so I looked at the charts on Equibase.  The route races do not look like they are being run on any kind of \"superhighway.\"  

HP
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: TGJB on May 04, 2012, 11:48:11 AM
Winner of the first came from off the pace and wide.
Title: Re: Churchill today
Post by: MO on May 04, 2012, 02:38:45 PM
Maybe that\'s why Hansen looks like the wise guy horse, 2nd choice at 7-1.