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Title: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: phil23 on May 04, 2012, 05:37:24 AM
Sounds like he may scratch.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: Topcat on May 04, 2012, 05:54:35 AM
phil23 Wrote:
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> Sounds like he may scratch.


. . . from multiple sources . . .
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: Beau on May 04, 2012, 05:58:55 AM
Twitter is going crazy with the rumors! Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: Wrongly on May 04, 2012, 05:59:34 AM
Bummer he was an easy toss!
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: MO on May 04, 2012, 06:14:34 AM
If he scratches, JOHN ASHER SAYS all the other horses are moved in 1 stall and My Adonis gets the 20 post. Unlike 2002 when there was a scratch and they decided to move all the horses OUT 1 stall.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: phil23 on May 04, 2012, 06:15:52 AM
Well looks like he hasn\'t pulled him yet.  My Adonis officially out of race (heading to a Pimlico race tomorrow).  Still 30 or so hours for Harrington to decide I guess.

I wonder if he does pull CC now, after scratch time, if they just leave his stall open or if everyone still moves in a spot?  Could slightly impact Hansen as he\'d no longer get the extra space from the end of the 1st gate.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: MO on May 04, 2012, 06:20:43 AM
Well, if My Adonis is out then Asher might pull a Romney.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: toppled on May 04, 2012, 06:29:34 AM
If My Adonis is out, he\'s odds on at Pimlico tomorrow.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: RICH on May 04, 2012, 06:31:06 AM
How can they move, that would mean Prospective would get the 11 hole and Alpha the 10, the eleven loads with the one, and sits the longest. Prospective owners would blow a gasket
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: MO on May 04, 2012, 06:35:30 AM
I blew a gasket when they wouldn\'t move Came Home in from the aux gate in 2002. They moved everyone out 1 stall. War Emblem saved my ass.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: sighthound on May 04, 2012, 06:51:11 AM
Posted 20 minutes ago at Blood Horse, Harrington says Twitter rumours wrong:

\"As the rumor mill, fueled by Twitter reports, swirled around Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) contender Creative Cause the morning of May 4, trainer Mike Harrington said there were no plans to scratch the colt from the May 5 race.\"

Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/69490/trainer-no-plans-to-scratch-creative-cause#ixzz1tueLwU59
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: HP on May 04, 2012, 07:01:35 AM
Good.  I hope this doesn\'t affect people betting on him because I need him to take money.  HP
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: bellsbendboy on May 04, 2012, 09:56:50 AM
Could you explain why this horse is an easy toss? Thanks. bbb
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: Wild Again on May 04, 2012, 10:31:20 AM
Creative Cause is only an easy toss if you are using something other than the numbers to handicap.

8 weeks since the second fastest #.

Intervening race.

Generous odds.

Whats not to like.

Yeah Yeah Yeah 15%.

The real question is what does the pattern yield for stakes quality horses.

Go Creative Cause.

Thanks

Wild Again
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: TGJB on May 04, 2012, 10:34:23 AM
The 15% is specifically for Derby horses, as stated.
Title: Re: Creative Cause rumours
Post by: Wild Again on May 04, 2012, 10:57:43 AM
15% = 6.5 to 1

6.5 to 1 to run a zero.

You will get at least 15 to 1.

Easy bet.

Thanks

Wild Again