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Title: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MO on May 03, 2012, 02:41:37 PM
Mike Welch says Hansen was rank this morning. Really??? Does this horse look rank to you? Scroll down page to see video.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/69456/maker-envisions-perfect-trip-for-hansen
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: justwin on May 03, 2012, 02:45:40 PM
this video is edited. i\'ll trust Welsch.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MO on May 03, 2012, 02:48:37 PM
It shows Hansen after the gallop. Looks like he never turned a hair.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: Bigredgoer on May 03, 2012, 04:12:01 PM
Watched the HRTV coverage this afternoon, the video was edited, Hansen was pulling very aggressively cocking his head while being restrained.  If you were able to see the entire gallop you would have agreed with Mike Welch IMHO.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MonmouthGuy on May 03, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
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Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MonmouthGuy on May 03, 2012, 04:30:44 PM
Lawyer Ron also rank at Churchill going into 2006 Derby
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MO on May 03, 2012, 04:58:18 PM
Wish I could see the full video......I\'m not sold. But must admit I am a little concerned. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see............

Owner said the key will be how he looks in post parade -if he\'s biting the pony and being aggressive- not good, but if relaxed walking along side the pony like in the Gotham, that\'s what they want.

My plan was to bet him early and watch from living room downs. Looks like I need another plan..............
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: sekrah on May 04, 2012, 03:21:46 AM
I wouldn\'t touch Hansen with a 10 foot pole.  I\'m not buying the snake-oil the Doctor is selling.  He\'s one of the very few confident tosses I have come up with in this Derby
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: alm on May 04, 2012, 05:47:12 AM
sekrah Wrote:
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> I wouldn\'t touch Hansen with a 10 foot pole.  I\'m
> not buying the snake-oil the Doctor is selling.
> He\'s one of the very few confident tosses I have
> come up with in this Derby


Yeah, I agree and he\'s the horse most likely to jam the inside horses in the early part of the race, given there is good speed inside him to form a pack that edges to the rail in the early part of the race.  This is what Mike Smith HAS to be watching in the first hundred yards.  Do we really think he will wrap up and move towards the rail to sit behind the others?  Really?  Mikey?
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: sighthound on May 04, 2012, 06:52:43 AM
Ditto.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MO on May 04, 2012, 08:11:20 AM
OK, let\'s put ourselves in Mikey\'s saddle. What would you do. You know Trinni is never getting the 10F so let him go, right?. You don\'t want to fight with Hansen either and you hope he goes with Trinni. So you need a target. Borail. That means you get a rail trip and that aint where Bode likes to run. He wants to be outside horses. So following Borail is not what we want either. So we gotta send and hope to get outside Trinni and Hansen, clearing 13 other horses. That means we have to use up our horse early to get position - and that can\'t be good. Gemologist, El Pad and IHA are all going to be sent to get position. So Bode has to clear at least those 3.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: plasticman on May 04, 2012, 01:08:48 PM
The owner is more rank than the horse.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: Lost Cause on May 05, 2012, 04:03:48 AM
MO Wrote:
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> OK, let\'s put ourselves in Mikey\'s saddle. What
> would you do. You know Trinni is never getting the
> 10F so let him go, right?. You don\'t want to fight
> with Hansen either and you hope he goes with
> Trinni. So you need a target. Borail. That means
> you get a rail trip and that aint where Bode likes
> to run. He wants to be outside horses. So
> following Borail is not what we want either. So we
> gotta send and hope to get outside Trinni and
> Hansen, clearing 13 other horses. That means we
> have to use up our horse early to get position -
> and that can\'t be good. Gemologist, El Pad and IHA
> are all going to be sent to get position. So Bode
> has to clear at least those 3.

Your post is dead on in why I think Bode is in serious trouble here.  Just a lot of things that can go wrong with the race shapes.  He really drew badly.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: Lost Cause on May 05, 2012, 04:05:38 AM
plasticman Wrote:
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> The owner is more rank than the horse.


They should geld him..might calm him down..
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: sekrah on May 05, 2012, 03:25:05 PM
MO Wrote:
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> Wish I could see the full video......I\'m not sold.
> But must admit I am a little concerned. Believe
> none of what you hear and half of what you
> see............
>
> Owner said the key will be how he looks in post
> parade -if he\'s biting the pony and being
> aggressive- not good, but if relaxed walking along
> side the pony like in the Gotham, that\'s what they
> want.
>
> My plan was to bet him early and watch from living
> room downs. Looks like I need another
> plan..............


Hansen was going to town on that lead pony.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: SoCalMan2 on May 05, 2012, 03:27:10 PM
sekrah Wrote:
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> MO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wish I could see the full video......I\'m not
> sold.
> > But must admit I am a little concerned. Believe
> > none of what you hear and half of what you
> > see............
> >
> > Owner said the key will be how he looks in post
> > parade -if he\'s biting the pony and being
> > aggressive- not good, but if relaxed walking
> along
> > side the pony like in the Gotham, that\'s what
> they
> > want.
> >
> > My plan was to bet him early and watch from
> living
> > room downs. Looks like I need another
> > plan..............
>
>
> Hansen was going to town on that lead pony.


he looked more like a Great White Shark than a Great White Hope.....i hope that pony is okay.
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MO on May 05, 2012, 03:28:59 PM
IM SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He\'s totally washed out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

banging my head against the wall and they aint even in the gate.

Good thing I stocked up on proper meds...................
Title: Re: Hansen rank? Really?????
Post by: MO on May 05, 2012, 03:51:56 PM
Or, if the track is playing well for speed and, as Jerry Bailey said \"fast but not tiring\" I\'ll send him in the 2 path and hope for the best...............