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Title: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: phil23 on March 01, 2012, 07:51:39 PM
With the Derby Futures Pool 2 opening this weekend, wondering if we could add in a few:

Daddy Knows Best - ASM
Lucky Chappy - Motion
Our Entourage - TAP
Thunder Moccasin - TAP
Drill - BB
Discreet Dancer - TAP
Isn\'t He Clever - Dominguez
Windsurfer - TAP
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: ruthlessman on March 02, 2012, 06:39:06 AM
When will pool 2 be available?
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: TGAB on March 02, 2012, 11:29:21 AM
It will be online later this afternoon (Friday) or early evening. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: phil23 on March 03, 2012, 08:31:43 AM
Just downloaded it.  Just wondering if no time for the additions? As only see the listed pool runners.  Either way, good stuff.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: TGAB on March 03, 2012, 09:47:20 AM
My bad. I didn\'t see your additions. A new file will be up shortly, say 1pm, including the eight you mentioned. Just download. You will not be recharged. That goes for all others who downloaded before 1pm est Saturday.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: phil23 on March 03, 2012, 10:58:17 AM
Thanks Alan.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: phil23 on March 03, 2012, 05:52:52 PM
And now I owe you another thanks Alan.  1-3-9.  Although I continue to be amazed how friggin little these tri\'s pay.  Hope you played it.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: Rick B. on March 04, 2012, 05:46:53 AM
phil23 Wrote:
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> And now I owe you another thanks Alan.  1-3-9.
> Although I continue to be amazed how friggin
> little these tri\'s pay.  Hope you played it.

Alan gave this play out on Jason\'s radio show, too.

Don\'t underestimate the effect of TG Analysis and Alan\'s listeners. Yesterday, I bumped into two different guys I occasionally trade info with, and both know I listen to Jason\'s show; both said, hey didja get Alan\'s picks, can I have \'em?

That was at lowly Hawthorne racetrack...imagine what happens in SoCal, which is really Jason\'s target audience.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: phil23 on March 04, 2012, 07:01:28 AM
Good pt Rick, had not considered that aspect to it, but given that Jason\'s show was in fact where I heard Alan give the pick, certainly logical that other\'s did as well.

Is there a good way of estimating general TRI payouts (in spots unlike this one, where no real push on certain combos), given win prices, that anyone knows of?  Obviously, it would only be guesstimates, but even some kind of short hand, back of the envelope thing would be useful.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: P-Dub on March 04, 2012, 08:46:04 AM
phil23 Wrote:
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> Good pt Rick, had not considered that aspect to
> it, but given that Jason\'s show was in fact where
> I heard Alan give the pick, certainly logical that
> other\'s did as well.
>
> Is there a good way of estimating general TRI
> payouts (in spots unlike this one, where no real
> push on certain combos), given win prices, that
> anyone knows of?  Obviously, it would only be
> guesstimates, but even some kind of short hand,
> back of the envelope thing would be useful.

Multiplying the win odds of the horses gives an estimate.  If winner is well bet, it will be a little less than the number.  Longshot will increase the price.  But generally speaking, doing this puts you in the ballpark.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: phil23 on March 04, 2012, 10:39:57 AM
Thanks P-Dub.  Just tried that for Big Cap try and it comes to around 167, which since it paid 138, is indeed reasonably close.  Will keep this idea in mind for the future.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Pool 2 Additions
Post by: P-Dub on March 04, 2012, 03:50:09 PM
Any time Phil.

My weekend is winding down, been a good time. Had that FTS at Aqu and the double, and just hit that 62-1 bomb wire job at FG. I never get tired of this place, love Santa Anita. Good luck..